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Kaleva

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54. If she thinks Trump poses a serious threat, why doesn't she put forth serious proposals?

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Four States Could Secede From US and Join Canada to Avoid Trump--Democrat [View all] YoshidaYui Nov 29 OP

That's not going to happen JI7 Nov 29 #1

NO, of course not, it will be YoshidaYui Nov 29 #2

That's not going to happen either. GP6971 Nov 29 #5

probably not. quakerboy Nov 29 #18

Won't happen, but it would be a dream! Bernardo de La Paz Nov 29 #13

And a great dream it is! Thanks! ancianita Nov 29 #21

Ooooh! I like that! Dem2theMax Nov 30 #28

.The only issue is that Canadians might feel overwhelmed. lapfog_1 Nov 30 #29

Nah, you wouldn't have to learn French. Disaffected Nov 30 #42

Exactly. And no hordes will move into Canada's provinces; they just stay where they are within the Canadian border. ancianita Nov 30 #49

You are so wrong. arthritisR_US Nov 30 #76

OK, I'll bite. Disaffected Nov 30 #89

Canada is an English speaking country, only one of our 10 arthritisR_US Nov 30 #91

Fine but I still don't understand what I am Disaffected Nov 30 #92

Well that's your experience. róisín_dubh Dec 1 #119

It would be a new province, not part of Quebec... brush Nov 30 #108

Sure, Quebec would remain Quebec (at least for a while). Disaffected Nov 30 #114

The matter is one of American imaginings. Canada would have to decide on it. brush Dec 1 #118

Wow, you do not know Canada, sad. arthritisR_US Nov 30 #75

California could readily survive as an independent country Metaphorical Dec 1 #129

I like the way the Great Lakes look locked up and safe that way. NBachers Nov 30 #39

If MN,WI,IL and MI leave the union it's a near lock. roamer65 Nov 30 #100

This!👆👆👆 bamagal62 Nov 30 #104

I see a face in profile, on the West coast. calimary Nov 30 #64

USONA usonian Nov 30 #65

Oregon ...... Lets go canada !!!!!! Trueblue1968 Nov 30 #95

I would love it. OnionPatch Nov 30 #116

Why not both? nt Disaffected Nov 30 #37

Yes !!!!!!!! Washington Stargazer99 Nov 30 #81

A Canadian friend of mine said he felt the US and Canada should unite and split again only East and West with a ... marble falls Nov 30 #97

Or Mexico! JoseBalow Nov 30 #109

Just in time for a new right-wing Canadian Prime Minister Polybius Dec 1 #125

"Four States Could Secede From US..." J_William_Ryan Nov 29 #3

The constitution doesn't mention secession soandso Nov 29 #9

It could happen without a war, but it would mean abandoning the Constitution. But Jesusland would abandon happily Bernardo de La Paz Nov 29 #14

So, if Trump abandons the constitution, bamagal62 Nov 30 #105

Good thought and good point. brush Nov 30 #111

Yes, because it's a compact between the states. roamer65 Dec 1 #131

Civil War and the dissolution of the country quakerboy Nov 29 #20

Yeah, I doubt the Canadian populace would go for it Disaffected Nov 30 #43

Maybe we could become part of the EU. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 30 #60

Would Canada want the RW extremists in rural NY and PA? wnylib Nov 30 #70

Would Canada even want the "liberals" of urban NYC or San Francisco? quakerboy Nov 30 #73

We would have no problem with them. arthritisR_US Nov 30 #77

YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE A BAD THING... being a Liberal YoshidaYui Nov 30 #90

quite the opposite quakerboy Dec 1 #122

Personally, No. But all others I have no problem. arthritisR_US Nov 30 #78

Eastern Oregon Mme. Defarge Nov 30 #103

Then call it a trade agreement. ancianita Nov 30 #50

To paraquote someone Polybius Dec 1 #126

I thought ForgedCrank Nov 29 #4

you think meal team 6 is going to want to take us on? fight to keep us? lapfog_1 Nov 30 #31

Meal Team 6 no. The actual Seal Team Six, yes DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 30 #55

I think Red states and the Rederal Government would want to let Blue states go Polybius Dec 1 #127

The US Military ForgedCrank Nov 30 #59

you think that if there is a divorce... that the red states lapfog_1 Nov 30 #63

No, you ForgedCrank Nov 30 #68

so in the last civil war, the entire military fought on one side? lapfog_1 Nov 30 #71

You know what? ForgedCrank Nov 30 #85

Shockingly, things have changed considerably in the last 150+ years DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 30 #96

trump has said he would suspend the Constitution... brush Nov 30 #113

Well then ForgedCrank Nov 30 #115

A dictator with total immunity for official acts from the corrupt SCOTUS 6... brush Dec 1 #117

I would be ok with it Meowmee Nov 29 #6

States can secede thinkingagain Nov 29 #7

He could use the money to buy Greenland, which he's always wanted. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 29 #15

Trump would love to have 49 states DENVERPOPS Nov 30 #26

No way Canada would allow that dsc Nov 29 #8

It's still a win-win. The new provinces add to Canada's wealth & GDP, while all the respective populations stay put-- ancianita Nov 29 #10

Secession intelpug Nov 30 #61

Not only this... roamer65 Nov 30 #99

Remember, as well, ancianita Dec 1 #121

It's more like 40 million, about the same as California. We'd love it, especially if we got Hawaii in the bargain! Bernardo de La Paz Nov 29 #17

California is one of the richest countries in the world. Dem2theMax Nov 30 #30

This is dumb. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 29 #11

We are "succeeding". Magas are seceding. I'll stick with succeeding. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 29 #19

Thank you. ancianita Nov 30 #44

No one is succeeding. Exactly. dchill Nov 30 #33

People would lose their Social Security etc Omaha Steve Nov 29 #12

New York would work that out. Instead of sending its wealth to Soc Security recipients of hard red states. ancianita Nov 29 #16

got news for you... lapfog_1 Nov 30 #35

JUST THE IDEA of East-West secession would either shake trump into dictator mode or make him treat those states ancianita Nov 29 #22

Red state economy would collapse. Illegal oasis Nov 29 #23

build a wall! build a wall! lapfog_1 Nov 30 #36

Hey, wait a minute!!! bamagal62 Nov 30 #106

Small problem, there's no provision in the Constitution for a state to unilaterally secede. CaptainTruth Nov 29 #24

we don't need no stinkin constitution! lapfog_1 Nov 30 #41

That's exactly the idea -- TALK ABOUT IT. Let's call it something else, like forming an alliance. ancianita Nov 30 #46

I think the Constitution prohibits individual states from doing that Kaleva Nov 30 #51

Okay, quote the Constitution. One thing the Constitution does not prohibit is the free speech in expressing the IDEA. ancianita Nov 30 #56

And people are free to say the idea is foolish and won't go anywhere. Kaleva Nov 30 #58

That's going to be useless if some Trump-like Tory from Alberta becomes PM. Crowman2009 Nov 29 #25

True DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 30 #57

That would likely be a self defining answer quakerboy Nov 30 #74

And that would be fantastic. arthritisR_US Nov 30 #79

Secession doesnt sound any less dumb when its our side proposing it. Asa13 Nov 30 #27

Texas has done it for racist reasons. We're doing it for economic and political self defense. Big difference. ancianita Nov 30 #53

Lol so you think they said we want to secede cause we're racist Asa13 Nov 30 #62

Doubt Canada or the UK would say Okay IbogaProject Nov 30 #32

Tied in tradition only. Disaffected Nov 30 #45

That's assuming canetoad Nov 30 #34

Yeah..There's that pesky war from 1776. LeftInTX Nov 30 #112

What's this fascination with joining Canada? Retrograde Nov 30 #38

Why not Rhode Island? displacedvermoter Nov 30 #82

Ask the OP Retrograde Nov 30 #94

Liz Krueger is my senator choie Nov 30 #40

If she thinks Trump poses a serious threat, why doesn't she put forth serious proposals? Kaleva Nov 30 #54

Screw all y'all SCantiGOP Nov 30 #47

Pigs could fly. onenote Nov 30 #48

It's been tried. Didn't end well. Iggo Nov 30 #52

It would give Trump the excuse to use the military domestically. DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 30 #66

She should focus that extra energy on helping Democracts gain more seats at the State level of government. cstanleytech Nov 30 #67

No. This will not happen. We are not as dumb as trumpsters. C Moon Nov 30 #69

Recommended. H2O Man Nov 30 #72

Trump Tower in Canada. no_hypocrisy Nov 30 #80

Harris won NY by fewer than 12 points FBaggins Nov 30 #83

Secession is treason. It won't happen. The public comradebillyboy Nov 30 #84

This is (kinda) my dream. intheflow Nov 30 #86

It's going to be a bunch of blue cities surrounded by red LoveSucky Nov 30 #87

If you read the Canadian sub-reddits, most people can't afford to live there Fish700 Nov 30 #88

Why is it when MAGAts mention secession we all laugh? But when Democrats suggest it, its possible? No its not. Runningdawg Nov 30 #93

What have I been saying? roamer65 Nov 30 #98

Why would Canada agree? bucolic_frolic Nov 30 #101

Add the three west coast states plus Nevada and I'm in... brush Nov 30 #102

To all those opposed to secession Blaukraut Nov 30 #107

They have no solution except to say maybe in the next election etc. things will get better Meowmee Dec 1 #120

And DU makes fun of Texas LeftInTX Nov 30 #110

Why Canada? Polybius Dec 1 #123

And I might be a Chinese jet pilot. Fish700 Dec 1 #124

As if Canada would have us.... Blue_Tires Dec 1 #128

Another point of view Cirsium Dec 1 #130