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ancianita

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Sun Dec 1, 2024, 11:06 AM
Dec 2024

For a year I've told DU detractors this, and I'll say it here again: It wasn't waiting.

What you call "waiting" is easy criticism when you during all that time you couldn't possibly perceive what had been happening. Until it was reported by Garland and the DOJ much later.

Which makes any claims of fact about Garland way off, thus your knowledge of the Garland DOJ even more way off.

Before ANY DOJ indictment can be made, a thorough investigation and collection of evidence must take place -- none of which DU'ers saw while it was happening.

Because the FBI is DOJ, Garland's FBI began arrests ON Jan 6 2021 -- two months before his confirmation -- and Garland DOJ convictions continued until the week after the 2024 election.

During the months of FBI arrest actions, Garland was prosecuting new AND outstanding cases,
all while rebuilding the DOJ personnel of his assistant AG’s, deputies, and 8 Division heads.

But before and during that work...

Garland himself wasn't confirmed with Republican votes until TWO months after Biden's 2021 inauguration;
Republicans STILL made Garland wait months for his division heads' confirmations;
Republicans did not confirm Kenneth Polite to head the DOJ's Criminal Division until July 2021 -- SIX MONTHS after Biden's inauguration;
Because they knew the Criminal Division would handle both federal cases under Garland.

Here's the Garland DOJ evidence gathering timeline -- BEFORE Jack Smith made any indictments.

By January 6 2022 (10 months after his confirmation): Garland states:
“So far, we have

-- issued over 5,000 subpoenas and search warrants,
-- seized approximately 2,000 devices,
-- pored through over 20,000 hours of video footage, and
-- searched through an estimated 15 terabytes of data...
-- received over 300,000 tips from ordinary citizens, who have been our indispensable partners in this effort.”

Garland actions above contributed to Special Counsel investigations.
In other words, Garland handed off all the documents case evidence to Jack Smith.


Jan 2022
— 15 boxes found in the storage area
— the FBI found more than 11,000 government records at Maralago — of those
— 184 unique documents bearing classification markings, of those:
— 67 docs marked Confidential
— 92 docs marked Secret
— 25 docs marked Top Secret
markings reflected that docs were subject to sensitive compartments and dissemination controls
used to restrict access to material in the interest of national security, including
HCS(Humint Control system),
FISA(Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act),
ORCON (originator controlled),
NORORN (could be NOFORN, no foreign national), AND
SI(Special Intelligence)

May 2022
— The first 100 documents marked as classified totaled over 700 pages [National Archives letter to Trump attorney, May 10, 2022]
May 11 2022: Garland convenes four DOJ Grand juries, one for Jan 6 convened until March 2024 -- 6 months before Jack Smith walked in the door
— Grand Jury subpoenas Trump for documents

June 3 2022
— Trump lawyer hands over 40 boxes from Maralago storage room
— 38 docs marked Classified


June 3 2022:
Garland's DOJ Grand jury subpoenas Trump for remaining docs in Maralago;
lawyers for Trump "certify" that there were no more;
Trump stole 11,000 government docs, 300 classified docs — the Garland DOJ's FBI found more than Trump's lawyers certified as recovered.

July 22 2022: G
arland's Grand jury testimony by Marc Short, Mike Pence’s Chief of Staff, & Short's counsel Greg Jacob

August 8 2022
— FBI warrant search of Maralago
— 103 marked Classified
— 18 marked Top Secret

The law violated: —- 18 U.S.C. 793— Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.
Penalty: Fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
More on the indictability of these stolen defense-classified documents:
https://www.justsecurity.org/83034/tracker-evidence-of-trumps-knowledge-and-involvement-in-retaining-mar-a-lago-documents/

Sept 2 2022:
Garland's Grand jury subpoenaed testimony by Pat Cipollone,
a) one of the participants in WH meeting Dec 18 2020, that included Giuliani, Powell, Flynn, Patrick Byrne of Overstock,
b) Cipollone sat in on Jan 3 2021 DOJ official meeting with Trump, and
c) Cipollone was in direct contact with trump on Jan 6 during capitol insurrection, and did nothing when Meadows told him Trump didn’t want to interfere with rioters calling for hanging Mike Pence)
AND with Patrick Philbin

Sept 15 2022:
Garland's Grand Jury subpoenas Mark Meadows for testimony and documents
the month of Sept 2022: Garland's DOJ issued over 40 subpoenas to people close to Trump, some of whom are
— Bill Stepien, DT’s campaign mgr; part of team to prevent certification
— Sean Dollman, DT’s campaign CFO
— Ben Williamson, Deputy of Mark Meadows,
— Boris Epshteyn, Trump's lawyer -- phone demanded; part of team to prevent certification
— Mike Lindell -- phone seized
— William Russell, WH special asst to Trump, THEN special aide to Trump in Mar-a-lago

Oct 6 2022: Garland's Grand jury calls back Greg Jacob
Oct 13 2022: Garland's Grand Jury calls back Marc Short, Pence's chief of staff

Nov 4 2022:
classified docs found in Biden’s
-- Wilmington home (garage, library), (no docs in Rehoboth beach home) and
-- Penn Biden Center in DC (Richard Sauber is spec counsel to Pres Biden)
Nov 14 2022: Garland asks John Lausch (Trump appointed US Atty, Chicago) to review found Biden documents

Nov 18 2022 Garland appoints Jack Smith (3 days after Trump announces his candidacy for 2024), who inherits the records of the Garland DOJ's work.

By that very day, Nov 18 2022, Garland's DOJ had convicted more than 323 Jan 6 insurrectionists.

All of the above documents case evidence AND DC grand jury evidence gathered is what AG Merrick Garland and his DOJ did before Jack Smith.

Garland himself could not possibly know how long it would take SC Jack Smith's team to file indictments.

But the first documents case indictment was filed June 8 2023, based mostly on work previously done by Garland's Criminal Division/FBI investigators and grand juries
.

For DU'ers triggered by the mention of Garland, these will forever remain the facts of Garland's Jan 6 investigations and evidence collections during his first 20 months in office.

Along with the willfully ignored fact of Garland's wisdom in choosing Jack Smith from the Hague as Special Counsel

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6 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

That's a damn shame! Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #1
The founders never imagined this situation. COL Mustard Dec 2024 #7
I admit I'm a bit ignorant of the law Dem4life1234 Dec 2024 #9
Unfortunately Article II of the Constitution establishes who can be President. COL Mustard Dec 2024 #11
Absolutely! Dem4life1234 Dec 2024 #15
The reality melm00se Dec 2024 #35
Turns out, Nixon actually had it right !!!!!!!!!!! DENVERPOPS Dec 2024 #22
The Democratic party has always let them get away with it... RhapsodyFav Dec 2024 #37
This! Dem4life1234 Dec 2024 #39
Trump will only go to Russia when summoned. 33taw Nov 2024 #2
Trump is considered "criminally inadmissible" to Canada, but he could apply for a "parole" of that status. C0RI0LANUS Nov 2024 #3
i googled and this was the a.i. response: orleans Dec 2024 #40
Thank you for the clarification, orleans. The TRP sounds like the "parole" term I used. C0RI0LANUS Dec 2024 #42
Oh Canada! SNAP! IzzaNuDay Nov 2024 #4
It is true. I Googled it and posted a couple of times. Canada isn't the only country, either Deuxcents Nov 2024 #5
Yeah, but they let Bush and Cheney in. LisaM Nov 2024 #6
Is a DUI a felony though? Polybius Dec 2024 #24
I mostly remember that they wouldn't let you in Canada if you had one. LisaM Dec 2024 #27
As much as I can't stand drinking and driving, a forever ban seems a bit extreme Polybius Dec 2024 #29
The orange one brought the ring to Biden to kiss. That's called professional courtesy. Hotler Dec 2024 #8
... ancianita Dec 2024 #10
Thank you Unwind Your Mind Dec 2024 #12
Absolutely. The facts should be known and shared. ancianita Dec 2024 #13
I'll add my thanks to the above. The vilification of Garland has always struck me as loonacy. EarnestPutz Dec 2024 #14
Empty Wheel? msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #16
What about it? You got fact based info from them? If so, please post it. ancianita Dec 2024 #17
Not I. Just checking my gut impression. I had got a "hit" you might be connected. msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #20
I see. Well, I do have Empty Wheel bookmarked, for sure. ancianita Dec 2024 #21
Well that leaves DOJ and AG off the hook, then. So all we have to do is blame our outdated Constitution msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #19
The Garland DOJ did its job, so why should it even be on the hook? There's WAY more evidence that it shouldn't be at all ancianita Dec 2024 #23
"Nov 18 2022 Garland appoints Jack Smith" Polybius Dec 2024 #25
Thanks for that timeline BDavinciNY Dec 2024 #34
+1, Garland ***COULD HAVE*** assigned an SC first day in office knowing J6 could've been a big deal that involved MAGA uponit7771 Dec 2024 #43
Makes total sense. Emile Dec 2024 #18
It's funny, but it's just trump being himself and enjoying making people squirm and sit at his feet. C Moon Dec 2024 #26
No joke! elleng Dec 2024 #28
I just figured that those Trumpists' wives were thirsty for him, and demanded a meet. LudwigPastorius Dec 2024 #30
Well, probably since the five eyes monitor international phone calls, Trudeau did not want anyone else to know what he LiberalArkie Dec 2024 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2024 #32
"You're" wondering. Spelled correctly in the tweet. Maru Kitteh Dec 2024 #33
Ha! Beautiful! Joinfortmill Dec 2024 #36
Bullshit. Under Canadian law, if the government opts to allow him to enter the country, he can enter the country onenote Dec 2024 #38
stop it! you're spoiling the magic of the moment orleans Dec 2024 #41
I think it was intended as humor. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2024 #44
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