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40. It's getting to be disturbing how often misinformation is being spread on DU

Tue Dec 3, 2024, 11:53 PM

Dec 3

and how such misinformation persists even when the facts are posted.
No, Neil Bush did not receive a pardon or a grant of clemency from GHWBush.
No, Billy Carter did not receive a pardon or a grant of clemency from Jimmy Carter.

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2024/12/fact-check-presidents-jimmy-carter-george-h-w-bush-did-not-pardon-family-members.html#google_vignette

Those are verifiable facts and anyone posting false statements to the contrary should delete them, imo.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] mcar Dec 3 OP

Thank you for posting much needed info! The bushes have brought us to this moment of facist rule Clouds Passing Dec 3 #1

Thanks for this reminder..I had forgotten the details Deuxcents Dec 3 #2

Aaaahhh ... Silverado savings UpInArms Dec 3 #3

How about these scumbags? Greybnk48 Dec 3 #4

Uh...Neil Bush wasn't pardoned? tritsofme Dec 3 #5

I'm sure there is a difference. Raven123 Dec 3 #8

I'm not even sure that is actually true. My recollection is that he faced civil, not criminal, penalties. tritsofme Dec 3 #10

IMO, Joe is trying to protect him from future prosecution as well. Raven123 Dec 3 #11

Right, my point was that this pardon/clemency of Neil Bush tritsofme Dec 3 #14

Gotcha Raven123 Dec 3 #18

Yes he was pardoned by Bush 1 for saving and loan fraud. Demsrule86 Dec 3 #12

Nice try at what? Pierce claims he was pardoned, that doesn't appear to be true. tritsofme Dec 3 #13

He didn't recieve a pardon or a commutation NYC Liberal Dec 3 #23

Bush DoJ did not prosecute his son's billion dollar fraud. Kid Berwyn Dec 3 #24

No doubt about it, Neil Bush is corrupt as shit. It's just that Pierce's claim about the pardon is untrue. tritsofme Dec 3 #26

True. But Poppy really liked destroying the paper trail. Kid Berwyn Dec 3 #30

William Casey markodochartaigh Dec 3 #41

He was granted clemency UpInArms Dec 3 #38

That doesn't appear to be true either. tritsofme Dec 4 #45

Good memory surfered Dec 3 #6

Bad memory. Not true about Neil Bush. onenote Dec 4 #50

A thousand thanks, Charlie Pierce. Paladin Dec 3 #7

I love Charlie Pierce, but he's wrong. GHW Bush didn't pardon Neil. Ocelot II Dec 3 #28

I'll await Charlie Pierce's response, if that's quite alright with you. (nt) Paladin Dec 4 #44

Frankly, I think Biden Bashers need to take a good hard look at their own shortcomings. calimary Dec 3 #37

Excellent historical reference. nt moniss Dec 3 #9

A knowledge of US History can be so enlightening Hekate Dec 3 #15

Except this time Pierce's history is wrong. Bush I didn't pardon Neil. Ocelot II Dec 3 #29

What did Poppy do? Hekate Dec 3 #32

Nothing, apparently. Ocelot II Dec 3 #33

Can you be pardoned for any thing you might have done? That is the kind of Pardon folks like DontBelieveEastisEas Dec 3 #36

The Brothers Vindman are national heros markodochartaigh Dec 3 #39

So many very short and selective memories PatSeg Dec 3 #16

Great OP malaise Dec 3 #17

Biden is everyone's favorite punching bag. Nt BootinUp Dec 3 #19

And Neil commited serious crimes, not trumped up charges by a partisan Special Counsel. SunSeeker Dec 3 #20

And as for not pardoning before a crony served jail time, remember Rep. Duncan Hunter? Liberty Belle Dec 3 #21

4 presidents have pardoned family members before Biden pardoned his son: Liberty Belle Dec 3 #22

They are incorrect for both Carter and Bush. tritsofme Dec 3 #25

Please explain the Abraham Lincoln one Polybius Dec 3 #35

This is not correct. GHW Bush didn't pardon Neil. Ocelot II Dec 3 #27

Pierce needs to clean this up. Nt BootinUp Dec 3 #31

Knr UTUSN Dec 3 #34

It's getting to be disturbing how often misinformation is being spread on DU onenote Dec 3 #40

But Roger Clinton was pardoned by his brother Bill Clinton. LisaL Dec 4 #49

144 recs Sympthsical Dec 4 #54

As I recall, Mblaze Dec 4 #42

K&R ReRe Dec 4 #43

Biden shouldn't worry, but Pierce's claim about Neil Bush isn't true. tritsofme Dec 4 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Hotler Dec 4 #47

Bill Clinton pardoned his brother. LisaL Dec 4 #48

Selective Amnesia. Both the Republicans and the Vogon_Glory Dec 4 #51

Apparently Esquire no longer uses fact checkers: Jose Garcia Dec 4 #52

Esquire retracted the column. sl8 Dec 4 #53

Now that entire column has been removed, a correction in its place. Tactical Peek Dec 4 #55

This is erroneous information please delete. Devilsun Dec 4 #56

Semantics. Kid Berwyn Dec 4 #57

You aren't supposed to be able to pardon people involved in a conspiracy MadameButterfly Dec 4 #58