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Shambala

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56. I thought voters would recognize that Trump also supported gender affirming care for inmates using taxpayer dollars

Wed Dec 4, 2024, 01:35 PM

Dec 4

But I guess his supporters didn’t hear that in their news bubble.

https://www.advocate.com/election/gender-affirming-care-inmates-trump-harris#rebelltitem3

Why do inmates have access to gender-affirming care? Those Trump ads you keep seeing debunked
Republicans have spent $65 million on attack ads that target 0.6 percent of the population. Here's all the context they're missing.
RYAN ADAMCZESKI
OCTOBER 22 2024 6:00 AM EST

The official policy of the Trump administration provided inmates with gender-affirming care, in compliance with U.S. law. A 2017 manual from Trump's Department of Justice specifically addressed how to best care for trans inmates, stating, "Hormone or other medical treatment may be provided after an individualized assessment of the requested inmate by institution medical staff."

The manual even went on to say that "In the event this treatment changes the inmate’s appearance to the extent a new identification card is needed, the inmate will not be charged for the identification card." It also explicitly said that staff "will not be disciplined" for using inmates' preferred names and pronouns.

When agreeing to "follow the law" in her Fox News interview, Harris was correct in noting that "it’s a law that Donald Trump actually followed" as well.

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Ted Cruz's sex-change TV ads gave him another term dalton99a Dec 4 #1

You're not going to get an honest discussion about trans issues from Helen Lewis. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 4 #2

Exactly Blue_Tires Dec 4 #16

Good luck with that. BannonsLiver Dec 4 #3

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As a trans woman I find that incredibly offensive AZSkiffyGeek Dec 4 #12

I get what you are saying. But also women have long history of attempting to shed gender roles. boston bean Dec 4 #17

I understand that viewpoint and don't think it conflicts with trans people. Oneironaut Dec 4 #23

That is understood. But I think sometimes is looked upon as an attack, when it is not. boston bean Dec 4 #34

Sometimes the context it's coming from is transphobic, however, tbh. Oneironaut Dec 4 #37

Gender "roles" are fully ridiculous Charging Triceratops Dec 4 #39

This ain't it, chief. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 4 #20

Wow. First - just a reminder - Ms. Toad Dec 4 #47

Let's hear more directly from trans people. LAS14 Dec 4 #63

I always find the shower concern hilarious meadowlander Dec 4 #72

From Lewis? Passages Dec 4 #5

Approximately 1% of the US population identify as transgender (from a google search) - somehow that 1% becomes of vast NoMoreRepugs Dec 4 #6

I agree. It's an example of clever strategy by Republicans. yardwork Dec 4 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Demovictory9 Dec 4 #13

Ah, that was the "Harris is for they/them" ad. It ran absolutely everywhere in the country for weeks. bearsfootball516 Dec 4 #31

It was devastatingly effective. yardwork Dec 4 #33

She could have stated how she felt about using LeftInTX Dec 4 #42

Same strategy used in 2004 with same gender marriage. Ms. Toad Dec 4 #49

I thought voters would recognize that Trump also supported gender affirming care for inmates using taxpayer dollars Shambala Dec 4 #56

Those ads were relentless moose65 Dec 4 #70

Apparently nearly 30% of Gen Z consider themselves LBGTQ. pandr32 Dec 4 #19

In my swing state (still mostly red), the ad where Charlemagne said "Hell no I don't want my tax money going Silent Type Dec 4 #7

Kark Rove made his career out of turning an opponent's strength into a weakness dalton99a Dec 4 #8

So Charlemagne is also TommyT139 Dec 4 #48

I agree. Voters apparently did not. Silent Type Dec 4 #51

Of course - but this argument wasn't made, either. TommyT139 Dec 4 #53

They edited the video to remove the context. Scipio Africanus Dec 4 #55

That wasn't a problem until 2020. Initech Dec 4 #10

Blame lies where it always does and thatvit with the american voters Fullduplexxx Dec 4 #27

That doesn't work Cirsium Dec 4 #58

Don't fool yourself - it was an issue, Ms. Toad Dec 4 #52

The funny thing is the people screaming about trans women in sports... Initech Dec 4 #82

This is a subject so rife with misunderstandings (intentional and less so) that only the most adamant hlthe2b Dec 4 #11

The angry attacks on healthcare providers ramped up during COVID. yardwork Dec 4 #35

I had to laugh even though it is not funny. Honestly, I only wish this was news to me. hlthe2b Dec 4 #41

No. Quiet Em Dec 4 #14

You might want to let the republicans know. BannonsLiver Dec 4 #24

Don't really care about ignorant Republicans who have no knowledge or understanding of the issue Quiet Em Dec 4 #25

Yeah, I read that book too. BannonsLiver Dec 4 #28

Not sure what you are referring to. Quiet Em Dec 4 #29

Bullshit. Democrats need learn to focus Americans' attention on the things that actually Scrivener7 Dec 4 #15

You are so right. The Republicans ran with a rapist and convicted felon for president who was awaiting trial muriel_volestrangler Dec 4 #26

It also shows, and I take heat for saying this but it's obvious, that Democrats need Scrivener7 Dec 4 #30

I'm enjoying the bus tires running us over. /s Oneironaut Dec 4 #18

Oof, yeah AZSkiffyGeek Dec 4 #22

This is the key point. yardwork Dec 4 #40

It's the Willy Horton ploy LeftInTX Dec 4 #44

Yes. It's always something. yardwork Dec 4 #66

That ad worked in Detroit. Kid Berwyn Dec 4 #21

"Trans girls playing in girls' sports" is itself a rightwing dog whistle LearnedHand Dec 4 #32

Transgender rights are a prelude. Voltaire2 Dec 4 #36

They are going after divorce for women Bettie Dec 4 #64

This issue hurt more than inflation JI7 Dec 4 #38

And it's a non-issue. yardwork Dec 4 #43

I recall correctly, I think GusBob Dec 4 #45

It is not "inferred rather strongly," it is explicitly against the rules of the forum. Ms. Toad Dec 4 #59

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You cannot advocate to restrict the rights of trans individuals on a progressive/left political forum, Ms. Toad Dec 4 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Abolishinist Dec 4 #69

If you don't understand why discrimination is wrong I'm not sure what to say AZSkiffyGeek Dec 4 #73

I remember similar shout-outs over racial segregation. DJ Synikus Makisimus Dec 4 #46

When Jimmy Carter sent Amy to a public school in Washington DC Jk23 Dec 4 #50

Boston was where the battle against segregation ended. DJ Synikus Makisimus Dec 4 #60

JK23 What motivated you to join DU? 33taw Dec 4 #54

Good question. Scrivener7 Dec 4 #65

I wish we could make Zoey Tur a spokesperson. LAS14 Dec 4 #57

This topic infuriates me ismnotwasm Dec 4 #62

I have never understood the debate. Asa13 Dec 4 #67

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Democrats shouldn't stand up for human rights, gotcha! AZSkiffyGeek Dec 4 #74

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Then I think the people you talk to should educate themselves. Oneironaut Dec 4 #79

"I have never met a single person who thinks individuals born as males should be playing female sports" LAS14 Dec 4 #80

I believe you have never met a single person who is transgender. Quiet Em Dec 4 #81

Also, explaining it requires more than 15 seconds of effort/thought and the desire to learn on the part of the person meadowlander Dec 4 #78

OP, thank you for having the courage to raise this topic in such a thoughtful manner... PeaceWave Dec 4 #75

Enough is enough!! BootOutTheGoons Dec 4 #76