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MadameButterfly

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8. yeah but back then Virginia was red and now its purple/blue

Reply to In It to Win It (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2024, 04:19 PM

Dec 4

Georgia and Arizona were red, now they are purple. NC is in play. States have always changed over time. Bill Clinton and Al Gore came from states that would never elect a statewide Democrat again. But NC has had 2 Democratic governors.

We still get half the votes. The problem is that the current distribution of blue and red favors Republicans in the electoral college and the senate, which it didn't always.

The difference now is Republicans cheat (voter suppression, gerrymandering, etc.) and RW media slanders and lies.
Without those, they wouldn't even be in the running.

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I Watched the Democratic Collapse in Florida. I Fear It's Happening Nationally. [View all] In It to Win It Dec 4 OP

I would think it seems globally as well. nt woodsprite Dec 4 #1

RSO rso Dec 4 #2

You can count on it that they are going to try. JohnSJ Dec 4 #3

Money is speech. War is peace. 2+2 IS 5. Moostache Dec 4 #4

you awe singing my song, my and my gospel. And you are so correct about the phones msfiddlestix Dec 4 #16

I think the CIA/FBI need to up their game. travelingthrulife Dec 5 #23

It appears to be happening worldwide. ananda Dec 4 #5

A nice start might be if the Party starts listening to its own voters... PeaceWave Dec 4 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Dec 4 #11

Listening to all its voters Retrograde Dec 4 #14

Oh bullshit. W_HAMILTON Dec 5 #20

What you are talking about is not the base. In fact they are the total opposite JI7 Dec 5 #22

There would have been no democratic collapse in Florida speak easy Dec 4 #7

yeah but back then Virginia was red and now its purple/blue MadameButterfly Dec 4 #8

I think this is a deep part of the problem Dave says Dec 4 #15

True Viginia has become a blue/purple State standingtall Dec 4 #17

Basically, we have to stop losing working class men MadameButterfly Dec 5 #18

Agree with most of this standingtall Dec 4 #9

Well, for Oklahoma, the Democratic Party was competitive in the 2000s in state government In It to Win It Dec 4 #10

Gosh, I wonder which party benfits from a multi-spectrum 24/7/365 propaganda apparatus... JHB Dec 4 #12

Democrats Can Survive Dlpger61 Dec 4 #13

they are 2 down in the House. Did great in NC etc etc. Let's not do this. themaguffin Dec 5 #19

Florida became more red becsuse A LOT of Republicans from other states JI7 Dec 5 #21

The red shift in Florida began with the Mariel boatlift. DavidDvorkin Dec 5 #24