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The Atlantic / David Frum - (archived: https://archive.ph/dGh1r ) The Sound of Fear on Air
It is an ominous sign that Morning Joe felt it had to apologize for something I said.
By David Frum
December 4, 2024, 2:37 PM ET
This morning, I had an unsettling experience.
I was invited onto MSNBCs Morning Joe to talk from a studio in Washington, D.C., about an article Id written on Trumps approach to foreign policy. Before getting to the article, I was asked about the nomination of Pete Hegseth as secretary of defensespecifically about an NBC News report that his heavy drinking worried colleagues at Fox News and at the veterans organizations hed headed. (A spokesman for the Trump transition told NBC, These disgusting allegations are completely unfounded and false, and anyone peddling these defamatory lies to score political cheap shots is sickening. )
I answered by reminding viewers of some history:
I told this story in pungent terms. Its cable TV, after all. And I introduced the discussion with a joke: If youre too drunk for Fox News, youre very, very drunk indeed.
At the next ad break, a producer spoke into my ear. He objected to my comments about Fox and warned me not to repeat them. I said something noncommittal and got another round of warning. After the break, I was asked a follow-up question on a different topic, about President Joe Bidens pardon of his son. I did not revert to the earlier discussion, not because I had been warned, but because I had said my piece. I was then told that I was excused from the studio chair. Shortly afterward, co-host Mika Brzezinski read an apology for my remarks.
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It is an ominous sign that Morning Joe felt it had to apologize for something I said.
By David Frum
December 4, 2024, 2:37 PM ET
This morning, I had an unsettling experience.
I was invited onto MSNBCs Morning Joe to talk from a studio in Washington, D.C., about an article Id written on Trumps approach to foreign policy. Before getting to the article, I was asked about the nomination of Pete Hegseth as secretary of defensespecifically about an NBC News report that his heavy drinking worried colleagues at Fox News and at the veterans organizations hed headed. (A spokesman for the Trump transition told NBC, These disgusting allegations are completely unfounded and false, and anyone peddling these defamatory lies to score political cheap shots is sickening. )
I answered by reminding viewers of some history:
In 1989, President George H. W. Bush nominated John Tower, senator from Texas, for secretary of defense. Tower was a very considerable person, a real defense intellectual, someone who deeply understood defense, unlike the current nominee. It emerged that Tower had a drinking problem, and when he was drinking too much he would make himself a nuisance or worse to women around him. And for that reason, his nomination collapsed in 1989. You dont want to think that our moral standards have declined so much that you can say: Lets take all the drinking, all the sex-pesting, subtract any knowledge of defense, subtract any leadership, and there is your next secretary of defense for the 21st century.
I told this story in pungent terms. Its cable TV, after all. And I introduced the discussion with a joke: If youre too drunk for Fox News, youre very, very drunk indeed.
At the next ad break, a producer spoke into my ear. He objected to my comments about Fox and warned me not to repeat them. I said something noncommittal and got another round of warning. After the break, I was asked a follow-up question on a different topic, about President Joe Bidens pardon of his son. I did not revert to the earlier discussion, not because I had been warned, but because I had said my piece. I was then told that I was excused from the studio chair. Shortly afterward, co-host Mika Brzezinski read an apology for my remarks.
A little bit earlier in this block there was a comment made about Fox News, in our coverage about Pete Hegseth and the growing number of allegations about his behavior over the years and possible addiction to alcohol or issues with alcohol. The comment was a little too flippant for this moment that were in. We just want to make that comment as well. We want to make that clear. We have differences in coverage with Fox News, and thats a good debate that we should have often, but right now I just want to say theres a lot of good people who work at Fox News who care about Pete Hegseth, and we will want to leave it at that.
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Yup! They know the election was a sham and are doing their best to pretend it wasn't a coup.
Botany
Dec 4
#21
And Joe was one of the point men in installing w and stopping the counting of the vote in Florida 2000
Botany
Dec 4
#24
I'm done with MSNBC for awhile. I will resume at some point, Morning Joe has lost me
tulipsandroses
Dec 4
#18