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lapfog_1

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29. The problem with cutting spending
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 01:43 AM
Dec 7

is that the GOP wants to give all of the savings, and them some, in the form of tax breaks to the very rich ( mostly ) in YATDBET. Yet Another Trickle Down Bullshit Economic Theory.

The Democrats wants to cut spending on mostly military budget and spend it on more social programs and ( sometimes ) or direct payments to poor ( most of which never get TO the poor ).

Neither is correct.

The military spends so "much" on something mundane ( pick your favorite example ) because the companies that build specialized military hardware ( sometimes like very special and small quantity items like fighter aircraft ejection seats ) that cost inordinate amounts of money to design and build and test and the the military orders a few thousand a year ( or less ). So they make up for that by billing $200 for a hammer or a $1000 for a toilet.

Sure, we could go to war with a less sophisticated set of weapons and "smart" gear... but only at the expense of more casualties. Or in situations where we are only matching what the potential enemy brings.

Trickle Down has failed every time it has been tried. The economic eggheads that push this failed theory think that all that is missing from the basic demand / supply equation is more capital to start the supply chain into producing enough to meet demand... never mind the labor or the demand parts of the equation. you need to stimulate all aspects at once ( demand but making things that people want or need and can afford, well paid labor to both product the products AND create money to stimulate demand, and some cash infusion to provide the needed capital to build the factory and buy the inputs to start production )...

Democrats fail to understand that deficit spending is for when times are tough and the government NEEDS to spend to stimulate demand and pay labor... but during good economic cycles reduce spending so that the excess can be used to pay down the debt accumulated in bad times... thus reducing the impact of government borrowing and paying interest which does nothing for the economy in any long term way. Not start new programs of spending because we have more revenue than expenses ( surplus ). Clinton/Gore, for all their faults, were the last administration that sort of understood these fundamental aspects of capitalism and government policy.

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+1. Should have done this under Obama or Biden, rather than waiting for trump. One quibble, Medicare doesn't pay Silent Type Dec 6 #1
Everything you say is correct FakeNoose Dec 6 #2
That is a luddite view of the world. drray23 Dec 6 #3
Yes, that animal is made up. maxsolomon Dec 6 #6
Think he was reaching for "marmot" dpibel Dec 7 #27
Start with oil, gas, and coal subsidies. The rest is debatable. nt eppur_se_muova Dec 6 #4
DU's mortal enemy, the hated New York Times, once had a "you cut the budget" feature maxsolomon Dec 6 #5
How about taxing these billionaires who can give tens of millions of dollars to politicians... appmanga Dec 6 #7
What appmanga said. Kid Berwyn Dec 7 #47
Lift the kacekwl Dec 6 #8
This. Really, kids, it's not rocket science. Scrivener7 Dec 7 #37
The cost of debt is not changed by minting a coin - of any value karynnj Dec 6 #9
The debt has to be eliminated... WarGamer Dec 6 #18
The debt does not have to be eliminated karynnj Dec 7 #24
that's right... and a risk. WarGamer Dec 7 #25
Don't renew the tax cuts for the wealthy to raise more income karynnj Dec 7 #44
Not a single "vulnerable person" is hurt by cutting the Pentagon budget by 50% WarGamer Dec 7 #45
However that is not what they are speaking of cutting. karynnj Dec 7 #46
Get rid of FERNs for currency and print US notes soandso Dec 7 #30
Putin and Xi would love your plan to disarm our military. BannonsLiver Dec 6 #10
At 50% of our current spending we'd still be the world's greatest military. WarGamer Dec 6 #16
We seem to be "protector or Daddy" for Israel, Ukraine, and Taiwan among others HereForTheParty Dec 6 #11
The OP is for isolationism BannonsLiver Dec 6 #12
Cutting a bloated military budget is isolationism? dpibel Dec 7 #28
No that's the disarmament part. BannonsLiver Dec 7 #41
That sort of logic is a carbon copy of Neocon dogma from the late 90's and early 00's... WarGamer Dec 7 #43
It's not isolationism soandso Dec 7 #31
So you don't agree with the majority of Democrats that support Ukraine. BannonsLiver Dec 7 #40
there you go again... painting people into a corner WarGamer Dec 7 #42
I don't care what any majority thinks soandso Dec 7 #48
Let's keep the money for the spotted marmet. Passages Dec 6 #13
That might not have been the best example soandso Dec 7 #32
My response was more tongue and cheek. What I do believe the American people Passages Dec 7 #39
Agreed :) soandso Dec 7 #49
how much did repukes waste on bullshi wars Skittles Dec 6 #14
I was anti_iraq war from the start. WarGamer Dec 6 #15
neither war accomplished a fucking thing Skittles Dec 6 #20
War IS a racket. WarGamer Dec 6 #22
We could (end poverty), but you know very well we won't. harumph Dec 6 #23
That's some pretty ignorant gibberish. thebigidea Dec 6 #17
instead of insulting it... use your words and tell me why WarGamer Dec 6 #19
THANK YOU Skittles Dec 6 #21
Yep. Not a clue. Scrivener7 Dec 7 #36
What do you have against the spotted Marmet ... VMA131Marine Dec 7 #26
OMG, look at that! soandso Dec 7 #33
The problem with cutting spending lapfog_1 Dec 7 #29
That's ONE side of the ledger. The OTHER side is .... Martin Eden Dec 7 #34
I guarantee it will be ten times worse when they're done. It always is. Scrivener7 Dec 7 #35
Scientific research project funding is minuscule. Voltaire2 Dec 7 #38
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