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Dennis Donovan

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Sat Dec 7, 2024, 04:56 PM Dec 7

New Yorker: A Man Was Murdered in Cold Blood and You're Laughing? [View all]

New Yorker - A Man Was Murdered in Cold Blood and You’re Laughing?

What the death of a health-insurance C.E.O. means to America.

By Jia Tolentino
December 7, 2024



As you know, the C.E.O. of UnitedHealthcare, fifty-year-old Brian Thompson, was murdered on the street in midtown Manhattan, on Wednesday morning, twenty minutes before sunrise. He was in town for an investors’ convention, and had worked for UnitedHealthcare for more than two decades—a company that is part of UnitedHealth Group, a health-insurance conglomerate valued at five hundred and sixty billion dollars. UnitedHealthcare had two hundred and eighty-one billion dollars in revenue in 2023, and Thompson, who became C.E.O. in 2021, had raised annual profits from twelve billion dollars to sixteen billion dollars during his tenure. He received more than ten million dollars in compensation last year. Andrew Witty, the C.E.O. of UnitedHealth Group, remembered Thompson in a video message to employees as a “truly extraordinary person who touched the lives of countless people throughout our organization and far beyond.” Thompson lived in a suburb of Minneapolis, where UnitedHealthcare is based, and he is survived by his wife and two sons.

The particulars of this murder are strange and remarkable: it occurred in public; the suspected shooter went to Starbucks beforehand; he got away from the scene via bicycle; he has not yet been found. But the public reaction has been even wilder, even more lawless. The jokes came streaming in on every social-media platform, in the comments underneath every news article. “I’m sorry, prior authorization is required for thoughts and prayers,” someone commented on TikTok, a response that got more than fifteen thousand likes. “Does he have a history of shootings? Denied coverage,” another person wrote, under an Instagram post from CNN. On X, someone posted, with the caption “My official response to the UHC CEO’s murder,” an infographic comparing wealth distribution in late eighteenth-century France to wealth distribution in present-day America. The whiff of populist anarchy in the air is salty, unprecedented, and notably across the aisle. New York Post comment sections are full of critiques of capitalism as well as self-enriching executives and politicians (like “Biden and his crime family”). On LinkedIn, where users post with their real names and employment histories, UnitedHealth Group had to turn off comments on its post about Thompson’s death—thousands of people were liking and hearting it, with a few even giving it the “clapping” reaction. The company also turned off comments on Facebook, where, as of midday Thursday, a post about Thompson had received more than thirty-six thousand “laugh” reactions.

What on earth, some people must be asking, is happening to our country? Are we really so divided, so used to dehumanizing one another, that people are out here openly celebrating the cold-blooded murder of a hardworking family man? That people are making jokes about how the assassin could’ve won the Timothée Chalamet look-alike contest in Washington Square Park? That when a journalist at the American Prospect called an eighty-eight-year-old woman who was aggravated by her poor Medicare Advantage coverage for comment, she wisecracked that she wasn’t the killer—she can’t even ride a bike?

There had been prior threats against Thompson, his wife told NBC News, motivated, she said, by, “I don’t know, a lack of coverage? . . . I just know that he said there were some people that had been threatening him.” There had been protests at the UnitedHealthcare headquarters, in Minnesota, in April and July; during the latter, eleven people were arrested. The group responsible for the protests, People’s Action, also confronted Witty, the UnitedHealth Group C.E.O., at a Senate hearing in May. In a statement, People’s Action leaders referenced endless hours on the phone trying to get medical care covered, and denials of coverage for lifesaving medication and surgery. A recent statement from the group, in response to Thompson’s death, read, “We know there is a crisis of gun violence in America. There is also a crisis of denials of care by private health insurance corporations including UnitedHealth.” They urged political leaders to “act on both.” UnitedHealthcare has the highest claim-denial rate of any private insurance company: at thirty-two per cent, it is double the industry average. And, though the shooter’s motive remains unknown, shell casings found on the scene had the words “deny,” “delay,” and possibly “depose” written on them, echoing the title of a 2010 book by Jay M. Feinman, “Delay, Deny, Defend: Why Insurance Companies Don’t Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It,” which by Thursday had leapt up one of Amazon’s best-seller charts.

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Yep, UHC denies 1/3 of medical claims. Think. Again. Dec 7 #1
No they don't and I'll bet money you can't provide a citation for that. I get you are are trying to justify shooting Silent Type Dec 7 #4
From the OP article above... Think. Again. Dec 7 #7
You accept every thing you read. That's initial denials AND requests for additional info. Silent Type Dec 7 #14
I gave you a citation. Think. Again. Dec 7 #18
If you provide a citation for ultimate denials, not initial ones quickly overturned I'll contribute $25 to your favorite Silent Type Dec 7 #21
Man, those goal posts move FAST! Think. Again. Dec 7 #24
You said they denied 30%, they don't. You left out the most important part about approving once lazy doctors Silent Type Dec 7 #27
I said they denied 1/3 and the article this thread is about backs that up. Think. Again. Dec 7 #31
Yes, but they did point out that you didn't provide it from the approved list of sources in their head ThreeNoSeep Dec 7 #45
Just accept the fact that a corporation loyalties are to the executives and stock holders. The executives LiberalArkie Dec 7 #63
After reading this thread, I'm starting to wonder and it damn sure isn't you..... chouchou Dec 7 #90
Lazy doctors? yardwork Dec 7 #70
Hmmmmm soldierant Dec 7 #74
As the person happy feet Dec 7 #102
UM happy feet Dec 7 #105
In a lot of cases NJCher Dec 8 #133
I love that you are willing to die on this hill being factually wrong and mildly abusive. ZonkerHarris Dec 8 #155
LOL my thoughts too. Emile Dec 7 #28
Why make... FeelingBlue Dec 7 #48
Because they know many people Meowmee Dec 7 #104
It's the New Yorker, typically they're a reliable source Arazi Dec 7 #25
Does writer of article sound qualified. Her main article before was on "Britney Spears's conservatorship nightmare." Silent Type Dec 7 #44
And who are you? Arazi Dec 7 #57
Interesting that you don't see her qualifications the way I do. Ronan Farrow is an award-winning researcher/author... Hekate Dec 7 #58
She sounds to be a very good writer. As is Ronan Farrow. That's for showing us how qualified Autumn Dec 7 #73
In every post that you've made choie Dec 7 #80
Disparaging the auther is an ad hominem fallacy. AZ8theist Dec 7 #84
Jia appears on such podcasts as Preet Bahara's NJCher Dec 8 #134
I am not impressed by this article. delisen Dec 8 #153
Our healthcare system is terrible Henry203 Dec 7 #43
No joke. It's time Congress gets of their rears. They've had 60 years to enact something decent, and haven't. Silent Type Dec 7 #77
NEVER as long as Repukes are in the majority... AZ8theist Dec 7 #89
I bet we couldn't get 85% of Democrats to vote for universal HC without private insurers involved. ACA Silent Type Dec 7 #119
Yikes, where are you coming from with this attitude defending the undefensible? roscoeroscoe Dec 8 #130
That last sentence boggles my mind NJCher Dec 8 #137
Mrs. Thompson... is this you? intheflow Dec 8 #131
That attack on another DUer is unjustified and really wrong. That data was posted earlier. hlthe2b Dec 7 #9
Because it's the truth-- Silent Type Dec 7 #17
Nol It is not. Multiple sources report the highest denials rate and further that they were using AI hlthe2b Dec 7 #29
Not one of those says 30% ultimate denial rate. Silent Type Dec 7 #38
That you keep changing to new strawman arguments is not working. It only shows you for hlthe2b Dec 7 #41
Why are you splitting hairs on denials? intheflow Dec 8 #132
Excellent gathering of sources Hekate Dec 7 #64
Thank you. Think. Again. Dec 7 #66
UHC lonely bird Dec 7 #93
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 ShazzieB Dec 7 #99
Im glad it's happening. xmas74 Dec 7 #111
I know what you mean! ShazzieB Dec 7 #114
An article I read on DU yesterday Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 7 #10
Initial denials, final denials are like 9% and most are resolved quickly. Doctors do bill Botox for headaches when Silent Type Dec 7 #19
I hope our case ends up as one of those in the 23%. Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 7 #23
Citation? SamuelTheThird Dec 7 #37
Here you go. Silent Type Dec 7 #42
That doesn't say UnitedHealthCare has a 9% denial rate SamuelTheThird Dec 7 #46
Odd you use overall numbers dpibel Dec 7 #47
There's also slipperiness in attributing initial denials to minor errors and "lazy doctors" Prairie Gates Dec 7 #53
Even 9-10% denials seems horrific Arazi Dec 7 #61
That's fantastic! OilemFirchen Dec 7 #72
I work for insurance claims. I know how hard it is to push a totally valid claim thru with all the info LizBeth Dec 8 #145
That was with the implications of algorithms. Then lets talk about implementing LizBeth Dec 8 #146
And you keep equating talking about a shooting to Scrivener7 Dec 7 #15
Yeah, in this context it is. Silent Type Dec 7 #20
When multiple corporations practice legalized murder for profit, I guess you could say that Hekate Dec 7 #71
In your opinion. ShazzieB Dec 7 #100
See? Scrivener7 Dec 9 #159
I think Forbes says an "estimated one-third denial rate Stargleamer Dec 7 #36
That was rude. Justify shooting someone in the back? zuul Dec 7 #56
No it's not 1/3, it's only 32% SocialDemocrat61 Dec 7 #62
where are your citations/references that prove they don't deny claims at that rate? Genevra Dec 7 #65
Hey! Are you with the parasitic insurance industry? Just curious. paleotn Dec 7 #94
Would you please provide the source citing what percent they deny? nt Phoenix61 Dec 7 #117
War is hell. The Grand Illuminist Dec 7 #120
You are wrong. Blue Full Moon Dec 8 #157
Here is a link. If you want more, do your own research. 33taw Dec 9 #161
It's bad enough when trumpsters were the goons, it's another when Democrats join in. Silent Type Dec 7 #2
Anyone not totally broken up a psychopathic ceo dies is a goon. SamuelTheThird Dec 7 #49
Probably not, but they darn sure aren't what I expect from fellow Democrats. YMMV Silent Type Dec 7 #50
I bet you would have said.... paleotn Dec 7 #97
I don't visit some of the internet areas that supposedly are so "horrific" on the comments. That said, hlthe2b Dec 7 #3
Just a "hard-working family man" the article says Prairie Gates Dec 7 #8
. Think. Again. Dec 7 #22
Just a "hard-working family man"? Must be whey he used AI to deny claims. Autumn Dec 7 #76
Tony Soprano had more class nt xmas74 Dec 7 #113
Just like so many other average white collar schlubs misanthrope Dec 7 #118
Boo, fucking hoo atreides1 Dec 7 #5
Guess the New Yorker caters to the NYC blue bloods. paleotn Dec 7 #98
The New Yorker has done substantial reporting on Voltaire2 Dec 8 #127
Laughing at evil people dying is generally normal. Pretending an evil man was good or deserving of sympathy, is not. ColinC Dec 7 #6
Well said. Think. Again. Dec 7 #11
indeed mike_c Dec 7 #12
I freely confess that I sometimes watch videos Crunchy Frog Dec 7 #33
Um, maybe in the movies... whathehell Dec 7 #92
No? Saddam Hussein, Chris Dorner, Charles Manson, Hitler? ColinC Dec 7 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Dec 8 #124
When huge insurance companies engage in causing economic disaster and even widescale deaths for profit Attilatheblond Dec 7 #13
Yes Timewas Dec 7 #91
A *mass murderer* was killed in cold blood Arazi Dec 7 #16
I'm not laughing. City Lights Dec 7 #26
I'm not laughing but I am thinking about Karma. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 7 #30
Where Dem4life1234 Dec 7 #32
HARD WORKING AT GETTING RICH ... Xoan Dec 7 #34
From what I've seen most people are laughing at the BS demands for sympathy RockRaven Dec 7 #35
Perhaps this sadistic trend could be ended by lining up all of the chortling trolls and shooting them in the back. OilemFirchen Dec 7 #39
My concern is reserved for the people that died or suffered/ were bankrupted etc. Meowmee Dec 7 #40
Laughing? Gloating? Aussie105 Dec 7 #51
Considering the messages inscribed on those bullets Attilatheblond Dec 7 #96
I'm not laughing, but I just don't feel pity for the person killed sakabatou Dec 7 #52
We have become desensitised to the violent death of others. Aussie105 Dec 7 #55
So let's say someone was murdered. sakabatou Dec 7 #68
Yes. No. Maybe. Aussie105 Dec 7 #75
Jia, you don't know me or anything about me - so how do you know if I'm laughing? hatrack Dec 7 #54
I am against murder. sarisataka Dec 7 #59
Applaud that we can still laugh delisen Dec 7 #60
I'm a fan of gallows humor myself. ShazzieB Dec 7 #108
Well said delisen Dec 7 #112
Who says it was in cold blood? Jilly_in_VA Dec 7 #67
Using that logic SCantiGOP Dec 7 #88
Other articles I have read say that this ceo Linda ladeewolf Dec 7 #69
We can't help it. Aussie105 Dec 7 #79
Very true! Linda ladeewolf Dec 8 #140
Less Than Zero Tears... Less Than Zero... MayReasonRule Dec 7 #78
A Mark Twain quote appropriate here SnoopDog Dec 7 #81
SnoopDog: Concur. FYI (unless Mr. Darrow borrowed it from Mr. Clemens) C0RI0LANUS Dec 8 #144
It's a good saying no matter who said it... SnoopDog Dec 8 #149
You're welcome and I follow that philosophy myself. C0RI0LANUS Dec 8 #150
Knowing what Brian Thompson is infamous for, I honestly can't say that I have anymore sympathy for him than I had W T F Dec 7 #82
I sent tots and pears, DJ Synikus Makisimus Dec 7 #83
Yes, at this: SunSeeker Dec 7 #85
We just witnessed the final nail in the coffin of democracy and the elite's are surprised we don't give a flying fuck yaesu Dec 7 #86
Out loud? Swede Dec 7 #87
Depends on the man, really. paleotn Dec 7 #95
Fuck that guy orangecrush Dec 7 #103
What has claudette Dec 7 #106
Thompson murdered thousands of people- he just didn't leave fingerprints. hay rick Dec 7 #107
TL;DR LuvLoogie Dec 7 #109
You have not reported on the murders we haven't laughed st delisen Dec 7 #110
WTAFH, new yorker??? The COMMENTS are more lawless than the actual niyad Dec 7 #115
A plurality of Americans helped elect a convict to the Presidency. lees1975 Dec 7 #116
and if that 40% NJCher Dec 8 #143
Unfortunately, many are rejoicing at murder. Patton French Dec 7 #121
It's despicable - anyone applauding or condoning the murder of someone operating within the bounds of the law had better Midwestern Democrat Dec 8 #123
Well... LoveSucky Dec 7 #122
There IS DiverDave Dec 8 #125
Nobody is laughing. alarimer Dec 8 #126
It's very sad. Patton French Dec 8 #128
"UnitedHealth Group, a health-insurance conglomerate valued at five hundred and sixty billion dollars." Botany Dec 8 #129
Predatory Capitalism kills people everywhere everyday. Emile Dec 8 #135
yeah, I'm wondering where justice is coming from NJCher Dec 8 #141
I'm old enough to remember when we were opposed to the death penalty. Patton French Dec 8 #136
I'm still opposed to Predatory Capitalists killing people! Emile Dec 8 #138
Indifference is met with indifference. EllieBC Dec 8 #139
didn't he do NJCher Dec 8 #142
Yes I believe he was being investigated? EllieBC Dec 9 #158
I'm starting to LMAO every time it's mentioned The angst over this asshole being shot compared to the Autumn Dec 8 #147
Justice, Vengeance, Karma, or a Combination of all Three? C0RI0LANUS Dec 8 #148
No man is an island, Entire of itself, Ping Tung Dec 8 #151
People Need to Shop for Bullet Proof Baseball Caps and Bullet Proof Clothes with Gloves Socks Oneear Dec 8 #152
Oh fuck off Jia. Elitist clown. BannonsLiver Dec 8 #154
... LexVegas Dec 8 #156
I've heard of another 'New Yorker'----- "former" New Yorker I guess Jack Valentino Dec 9 #160
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