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-misanthroptimist

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81. We, the People...

Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:00 AM

Dec 11

...have taken an extraordinary amount of shit since the Age of Reagan. Things have become increasingly corrupt. With no recourse, people will resort to violence. (See: John F. Kennedy quote)

Younger people will, for a variety of reasons, be the ones to resort to violence.

I'm old -old enough to remember JFK. Old enough to remember when corruption was frowned upon and even prosecuted. Old enough to have once respected, and even admired, the US Supreme Court. Things have changed drastically for the worst in my lifetime.

However, I am somewhat fortunate in being old. I'm not going to have to live with this corruption much longer. Young people will have to live with it their whole lives -unless they can change it. How they change it is a function of the world they live in. If they are denied due process by corrupt institutions, then violence (as per JFK) is inevitable. It doesn't matter whether I condemn or condone. It is what the circumstances dictate.

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I feel like there's a generational divide in how One views the "vigilante" ceo murder [View all] FirstLight Dec 10 OP

I blame Congress, they've had 60 years to get healthcare system right and have failed. Hell, CMS has authority over Silent Type Dec 10 #1

I blame Republicans Johnny2X2X Dec 10 #4

Ghost of Joe Lieberman disagrees newdeal2 Dec 10 #10

So 1 Dem and 49 Republicans at that time? Johnny2X2X Dec 10 #21

We had 60 dems questionseverything Dec 10 #56

Not quite Cirsium Dec 10 #71

They had help from some Democrats. And they all take money to make sure healthcare isn't fixed by the Autumn Dec 10 #73

Gen X here. dawg Dec 10 #2

Yeah, if Rage Against the Machine was considered current in your youth misanthrope Dec 10 #31

Yep - a lot of us Baby Boomers were around with the hippies kerry-is-my-prez Dec 10 #42

this was my primal scream when I was sixteen The Wandering Harper Dec 10 #69

That's where I am Bettie Dec 10 #52

Maybe it's about time that the potential for being Klarkashton Dec 10 #3

Pretty soon someone looking cross eyed at a work mate will be grounds for a shoot out. Hope22 Dec 10 #6

It's called going postal. It's nothing new. Klarkashton Dec 10 #7

Yep - it has never stopped. The school shooters are somewhat the same thing. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 10 #45

I prefer not settling these issues on the streets with guns and psycho shooters. Hope22 Dec 10 #5

I think you're taking it one step too far... FirstLight Dec 10 #11

"I am not condoning that kind of behavior and I thought that that was clear" MichMan Dec 10 #28

oopos...ok, ok...welll I guess I wasn't spelling it oout well enough FirstLight Dec 10 #29

I beg to differ Tweedy Dec 10 #8

I am very sorry for your loss. I don't understand how United Healthcare is still in business. LauraInLA Dec 10 #46

most of the people I know are gen X or younger The Wandering Harper Dec 10 #9

I just can't get over DeepWinter Dec 10 #12

I am not in favor of any murder Easterncedar Dec 10 #16

While we don't condone murder... Omnipresent Dec 10 #32

The conservatives killed MLK,Malcolm X - Nigrum Cattus Dec 10 #13

The Republicans were more for the strangler, Dems and independents for the shooter. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 10 #53

Conservatives killed Malcom X? markpkessinger Dec 10 #58

Tacit approval of the murder of an innocent American citizen Bonx Dec 10 #14

Was he innocent, tho? intheflow Dec 10 #55

Yes, he was an innocent American citizen. Bonx Dec 10 #57

It should be a crime against humanity intheflow Dec 10 #68

Post removed Post removed Dec 10 #75

Boomer here SARose Dec 10 #15

I am against murder. sarisataka Dec 10 #17

No fucks to give Genevra Dec 10 #18

thank you for your clear answer...it is about the fucks to give, isn't it? FirstLight Dec 10 #34

you are very welcome Genevra Dec 10 #72

Agree with you I_UndergroundPanther Dec 11 #84

WWII Baby here Jilly_in_VA Dec 10 #19

I'm Gen X TheProle Dec 10 #20

Everytime someone says "he shot him in the back" I hear the twang of a banjo Prairie Gates Dec 10 #22

Mrs. Solomon is cheering loudly - she's almost 70. maxsolomon Dec 10 #23

Boomer here GenThePerservering Dec 10 #24

You want people scared of being killed and they better watch their backs. Jacson6 Dec 10 #25

Do you want people to be scared? Cirsium Dec 10 #36

well said... FirstLight Dec 10 #39

It's a class issue, not generational, race, gender etc leftstreet Dec 10 #26

Exactly Blue_Roses Dec 10 #30

There we go Cirsium Dec 10 #35

It brings to mind Mr.Bill Dec 10 #50

It's sad ... dumbcat Dec 10 #27

Very old here Cirsium Dec 10 #33

"what it really is" Lulu KC Dec 10 #37

69 year old who has mixed feelings. Sometimes I think he's a hero for bringing this out but then I'm like "oh yeah kerry-is-my-prez Dec 10 #38

There's always going to be the "oh yeah, oops it really was bad for that family..." FirstLight Dec 10 #40

Unfortunately, I don't see this changing any of the bastard CEO's actions/attitudes. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 10 #60

With oldness comes less sureness to handle change. It's not hurt me so far, let it go. Festivito Dec 10 #41

Boomer here. redstatebluegirl Dec 10 #43

I think you're right Picaro Dec 10 #44

I'm GenX and have no more fucks to give. The biggest CEO's are mostly psycho's themselves. OverBurn Dec 10 #47

39 years old who would, if I were on the jury, vote to acquit as a matter of course. Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #48

Older Gen X here (born in late 60s). TBF Dec 10 #49

I am a Gen Xer, and my brain is currently connecting the CEO murder, the trial of Daniel Perry, and the 2024 election. LauraInLA Dec 10 #51

72 and lens of rage here. Susan Calvin Dec 10 #54

Proud Baby Boomer Here Pesky1 Dec 10 #59

Most of us Boomers hated Nixon and chuckled at the hippies (or maybe adored them). kerry-is-my-prez Dec 10 #66

About ten years ago, Warren Buffet said it absolutely was class warfare, and we're winning. Way worse now IMHO. Evolve Dammit Dec 10 #61

Boomer here Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 10 #62

We've been shown there's no "equal justice," and what divides us JoseBalow Dec 10 #63

Gen Xer here ThePartyThatListens Dec 10 #64

It's a class and situational divide BannonsLiver Dec 10 #65

I doubt the division is based on age. ShazzieB Dec 10 #67

Agreed. It's class based. The wealthy defend the CEO, the poor defend the shooter. Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #70

I don't know which generations are for this and which aren't Meowmee Dec 10 #74

I am of a generation where shooting someone in the back was frowned on. Sneederbunk Dec 10 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Buttoneer Dec 10 #77

Why, I'm so old ..... usonian Dec 10 #78

I don't think there is a generational divide on the morality of this murder. RockRaven Dec 10 #79

The uber-elite are going to do whatever they have to do to maintain their revenue stream. Clouds Passing Dec 10 #80

We, the People... -misanthroptimist Dec 11 #81

I'm 64, Murder is wrong. If guilty this guy is no hero, he's a murderer. CentralMass Dec 11 #82

I agree, but I'm glad the conversation about predatory healthcare is getting so much play. Scrivener7 Dec 11 #87

I tend to agree I_UndergroundPanther Dec 11 #83

Across the nation it has begun Trellastic Dec 11 #85

Recommended. H2O Man Dec 11 #86