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al bupp

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27. If that's true
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 04:04 PM
Dec 12

Then the blatant partiality of the authors of Amnesty Israel's report, which included exactly zero people Palestinian descent, has to also be true.

Referring to what Daniil Brodsky says in his rebuttal to Amnesty Israel's report (linked once more here):

The lack of any Palestinians members being involved in writing it...

" isn’t because there were no Palestinians present. Amnesty Israel had skilled Palestinian staff and board members ready to contribute. It wasn’t because the Palestinians in Amnesty Israel have no legal expertise — after all, the Israeli staff doesn’t either. It’s because, as Palestinian activists and scholars Haneen Maikey and Lana Tatour have pointed out, a common pattern in progressive Israeli spaces is that Palestinians can provide labor, translation, lived experience and trauma to feed the analysis of Israeli Jews, but cannot be equal partners (emphasis mine) who get to do the analysis side by side and set the agenda together."

"Amnesty Israel finds itself in the awkward position of being neither a source of legal expertise, nor providing a diverse human rights perspective of Israelis and Palestians. It is just another place for Israeli Jews to express themselves."

As for Daniil's short tenure at Amnesty Israel, it was cut-off not due to being "ill-suited", unless that's a euphemism for objecting racist practices, but because he resigned, for the reasons laid out in his opinion piece. Arguing that his short tenure there demonstrates his incompetence is a circular and obviously self-serving argument. If Amnesty Israel's wasn't so clearly biased towards the perspective of only Israelis, then he might have remained as their chair of the board for who knows how long. By the way, what do his so-called "rather unimpressive credentials" say about Amnesty Israel in selecting his the chair of their board?

About the partiality of Amnesty Israel, in Daniil's own words:

"When I became chairman of Amnesty Israel in January 2024, there were no Palestinians on the board of managers or in managerial positions on staff. By way of comparison, this is a lower standard than the one found in Israeli public service and government-owned corporations (emphasis mine), which are, according to the attorney general’s guidelines, at least obligated to have a proper representation of Arabs “in all ranks and professions, in every office and auxiliary unit,” including the board of directors."

The "shitty" job that was done was Amnesty Israel's report, which was obviously and partial and "agenda-driven". Again in Daniil's words:

"I insisted on Palestinian representation in managerial roles, but nothing changed. Members of management and the board were reluctant to make the necessary structural adjustments. Staff told me that there was a rule that says a Palestinian staff member must be consulted on issues pertaining to Palestinians, something Amnesty Israel pointed out in their defense recently."

So, it turns out that Amnesty Israel didn't even follow its own rules in writing the report. Seems like evidence of an "agenda-driven" argument to me.

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Israel's Claims Are 'Not Credible' al bupp Dec 4 #1
Then, Beastly Boy Dec 5 #22
Amnesty Israel has no credibility on the topic of genocide in Gaza al bupp Dec 11 #23
Daniel Brodsky has no credibility Beastly Boy Dec 12 #24
Why shouldn't he advocate for Palestinians? al bupp Dec 12 #25
He should if he wants to. Beastly Boy Dec 12 #26
If that's true al bupp Dec 12 #27
If what you say were true, then Beastly Boy Dec 13 #29
Your comparison of the report to the Nuremburg trials is spurious at best and ridiculous on its face al bupp Dec 13 #32
It is Daniel Brodsky who is calling himself partial, not me. Beastly Boy Dec 13 #33
Maybe it's "rant" to you al bupp Dec 14 #37
Actually, al bupp, Amnesty International has a long and sordid history of demonizing Israel. madaboutharry Dec 4 #2
Amnesty International is a highly credible human rights organization. ColinC Dec 4 #3
Was a highly credible organization. That was last century. Beastly Boy Dec 4 #7
Just because you don't like what they say doesn't suddenly change their credibility ColinC Dec 5 #16
It's not what I like. It's what they say and how they say it. Beastly Boy Dec 5 #19
Here we go peregrinus Dec 4 #4
When all criticism of Israel is deemed antisemitic al bupp Dec 4 #5
What happens when only certain criticism of Israel is deemed antisemitic, and others are not? Beastly Boy Dec 4 #8
I think AM would make similar accusations against any country al bupp Dec 4 #9
I am not holding my breath waiting for Amnesty to hurl an analogous accusation against any other country. Beastly Boy Dec 4 #10
Since the UK and US give so much to Israel al bupp Dec 5 #15
Another false equivalency, as expected Beastly Boy Dec 5 #20
Let's see... al bupp Dec 12 #28
HRW cites jack shit. It offers only the opinions and interpretations that support their predetermined conclusions Beastly Boy Dec 13 #30
No, HRW offers cited facts al bupp Dec 13 #31
A link to a source with no content does not constitute a citation of facts. Nor does it constitute a fact. Beastly Boy Dec 13 #34
Just one source of many that HRW does not control al bupp Dec 14 #36
Actually Avalon Sparks Dec 4 #11
One can easily debunk AJC first point. Eko Dec 5 #13
Amnesty International has hated Israel for years, decades DeepWinter Dec 5 #21
Newsflash iemanja Dec 14 #41
Duh! malaise Dec 4 #6
If Israel wanted to commit genocide... ZRB Dec 5 #12
Sorry, it's ethnic cleansing bordering in genocide Trish6521 Dec 5 #17
What Israel could have just nuked Gaza, is that what you're saying? al bupp Dec 14 #39
And the West Bank and Syria? iemanja Dec 14 #42
Durned Humanitarian organizations keep on opposing war crimes and genocide. Ping Tung Dec 5 #14
Good David__77 Dec 5 #18
While I think that AI's statements are probably valid Crunchy Frog Dec 13 #35
AI is ignoring genocidal acts that Russia is carrying out in Ukraine, hmm al bupp Dec 14 #38
Not a word about genocidal intent or rhetoric. Crunchy Frog Dec 14 #40
Ok, let's dig into this a bit al bupp Dec 14 #43
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