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al bupp

(2,390 posts)
28. Let's see...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 04:49 PM
Dec 12

The HRW link cites:

* "Decades of [Israeli government] land confiscations and discriminatory planning policies have confined many Palestinian citizens to densely populated towns and villages that have little room to expand"

* "Many small Jewish towns also have admissions committees that effectively bar Palestinians from living there."

* "The Israeli state directly controls 93 percent of the land in the country, including occupied East Jerusalem."

* "Palestinian citizens of Israel constitute 21 percent of the country’s population, but Israeli and Palestinian rights groups estimated in 2017 that less than 3 percent of all land in Israel falls under the jurisdiction of Palestinian municipalities."

* "Beginning in 1948 and in subsequent decades, Israeli authorities seized hundreds of thousands of dunams of land from Palestinians (10 dunams equals 1 hectare). Much of the confiscation took place between 1949, when Israel placed most Palestinians in Israel under military rule, and 1966, when military rule ended."

* "During this period, Israeli authorities confined Palestinians in Israel to dozens of enclaves and severely restricted their movement."

* "Since 1948, the government has authorized the creation of more than 900 “Jewish localities” in Israel, but none for Palestinians except for a handful of government-planned townships and villages in the Negev and Galilee, created largely to concentrate previously dispersed Bedouin communities."

* '" 2003 Israeli government-commissioned report found that 'many Arab towns and villages were surrounded by land designated for purposes such as security zones, Jewish regional councils, national parks and nature reserves or highways, which prevent or impede the possibility of their expansion in the future.'"

* "Israeli law permits towns in the Negev and Galilee (which comprise two-thirds of the land in Israel) with up to 400 households to maintain admissions committees that can reject applicants from living there for being 'not suitable for the social life of the community' or for incompatibility with the 'social-cultural fabric.'"

* “Israeli land policies treat towns inside its own borders in starkly unequal terms based on whether its inhabitants are Jewish or Palestinian”

Any so much more is in there, too. I recommend that everyone gives it a read, as it makes an excellent case for the extensively unequal treatment on non-Jew in Israel when it comes to Israel's land policies.

Furthermore, the empty page at https://www.kkl-jnf.org/ that you point to doesn't mean that what you say HRW based it findings on isn't correct, rather just that the web admins for KKL-JNF likely removed it contents sometime after the HRW report was written.

In fact, the link in the HRW report that cites the KKL-JNF link is only for the report's assertion that the Jewish National Fund, which makes up almost half of the governing the members of the Israel Land Authority (ILA), which manages and allocates 93% state lands has an "explicit mandate is to develop and lease land for Jews and not any other segment of the population." So, the HRW report is hardly based on what we can only guess were the former contents of that single link.

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1 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Israel's Claims Are 'Not Credible' al bupp Dec 4 #1
Then, Beastly Boy Dec 5 #22
Amnesty Israel has no credibility on the topic of genocide in Gaza al bupp Dec 11 #23
Daniel Brodsky has no credibility Beastly Boy Dec 12 #24
Why shouldn't he advocate for Palestinians? al bupp Dec 12 #25
He should if he wants to. Beastly Boy Dec 12 #26
If that's true al bupp Dec 12 #27
If what you say were true, then Beastly Boy Dec 13 #29
Your comparison of the report to the Nuremburg trials is spurious at best and ridiculous on its face al bupp Dec 13 #32
It is Daniel Brodsky who is calling himself partial, not me. Beastly Boy Dec 13 #33
Maybe it's "rant" to you al bupp Dec 14 #37
Actually, al bupp, Amnesty International has a long and sordid history of demonizing Israel. madaboutharry Dec 4 #2
Amnesty International is a highly credible human rights organization. ColinC Dec 4 #3
Was a highly credible organization. That was last century. Beastly Boy Dec 4 #7
Just because you don't like what they say doesn't suddenly change their credibility ColinC Dec 5 #16
It's not what I like. It's what they say and how they say it. Beastly Boy Dec 5 #19
Here we go peregrinus Dec 4 #4
When all criticism of Israel is deemed antisemitic al bupp Dec 4 #5
What happens when only certain criticism of Israel is deemed antisemitic, and others are not? Beastly Boy Dec 4 #8
I think AM would make similar accusations against any country al bupp Dec 4 #9
I am not holding my breath waiting for Amnesty to hurl an analogous accusation against any other country. Beastly Boy Dec 4 #10
Since the UK and US give so much to Israel al bupp Dec 5 #15
Another false equivalency, as expected Beastly Boy Dec 5 #20
Let's see... al bupp Dec 12 #28
HRW cites jack shit. It offers only the opinions and interpretations that support their predetermined conclusions Beastly Boy Dec 13 #30
No, HRW offers cited facts al bupp Dec 13 #31
A link to a source with no content does not constitute a citation of facts. Nor does it constitute a fact. Beastly Boy Dec 13 #34
Just one source of many that HRW does not control al bupp Dec 14 #36
Actually Avalon Sparks Dec 4 #11
One can easily debunk AJC first point. Eko Dec 5 #13
Amnesty International has hated Israel for years, decades DeepWinter Dec 5 #21
Newsflash iemanja Dec 14 #41
Duh! malaise Dec 4 #6
If Israel wanted to commit genocide... ZRB Dec 5 #12
Sorry, it's ethnic cleansing bordering in genocide Trish6521 Dec 5 #17
What Israel could have just nuked Gaza, is that what you're saying? al bupp Dec 14 #39
And the West Bank and Syria? iemanja Dec 14 #42
Durned Humanitarian organizations keep on opposing war crimes and genocide. Ping Tung Dec 5 #14
Good David__77 Dec 5 #18
While I think that AI's statements are probably valid Crunchy Frog Dec 13 #35
AI is ignoring genocidal acts that Russia is carrying out in Ukraine, hmm al bupp Dec 14 #38
Not a word about genocidal intent or rhetoric. Crunchy Frog Dec 14 #40
Ok, let's dig into this a bit al bupp Dec 14 #43
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