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9. As has been said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

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Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:48 PM

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I am not afraid to post this: [View all] PCIntern Dec 12 OP

A long time ago, I knew someone who had close contact with Betty and Barney Hill. 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 12 #1

And others... PCIntern Dec 12 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 13 #136

I also Believe Timewas Dec 12 #3

I agree we are not alone. Delmette2.0 Dec 13 #72

Frightening Timewas Dec 13 #73

Yep, I hope we are just to dumb to be bothered. Delmette2.0 Dec 13 #75

If they land a Mar-a-lumbago they will wipe us out. hadEnuf Dec 13 #120

My theory FWIW OrangeJoe Dec 13 #124

One of my points of reluctance is HOW they would get here. Ursus Rex Dec 13 #89

There is intelligent life in the Universe... Omnipresent Dec 13 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 13 #137

Agree 100% PCinfern bluestarone Dec 12 #4

I think this topic is of evergreen interest that crops up now and again. I don't think we can prove one way or another CTyankee Dec 12 #5

I wrote a brief synopsis in soandso's post PCIntern Dec 12 #8

I fully concur alittlelark Dec 12 #6

I'm a skeptic. Waiting for irrefutable proof. Or at least something a lot better than what we've seen. Bonx Dec 12 #7

I'm with you True Dough Dec 12 #61

Am in agreement. I'm skeptical but open-minded. Do believe that visitors would be arriving allegorical oracle Dec 13 #67

And in an era of AI, we have to be even more guarded True Dough Dec 13 #68

As has been said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. cloudbase Dec 12 #9

That would include the extraordinary claim PCIntern Dec 12 #10

Earth is sort of the proof in my view. BannonsLiver Dec 12 #15

Kind of speaks to Drake's equation, though Sympthsical Dec 12 #59

Given the numbers, I don't believe we're the only life in the universe. cloudbase Dec 13 #64

Conspiracy theorist... Clouds Passing Dec 12 #11

Don't forget the Prime Directive DoBW Dec 12 #12

I'm going to go out on a limb here. usonian Dec 12 #13

Thanks for going out on a limb and posting this. TheRickles Dec 12 #14

I was 14 and was at a Lake in Northern California camping and we all saw these lights that came down and swooped kimbutgar Dec 12 #24

Crop Circles Were Made by Supernatural Forces. Named Doug and Dave. Abolishinist Dec 12 #44

Their efforts were debunked many years ago. Some major problems: TheRickles Dec 13 #66

Your referenced website is a travel site established by Monique Klinkenbergh, Abolishinist Dec 13 #94

Your article about Monique is from 2014. Her site now highlights the importance of obtaining farmers' permission. TheRickles Dec 13 #102

The crop circle debunkers have been thoroughly debunked Sugarcoated Dec 13 #95

Huh? Crop circles (as constructed by aliens) have been thoroughly debunked. Disaffected Dec 12 #47

I believe humans desire for it to be true. They love to have belief in the strong probability, or absolutness of the DontBelieveEastisEas Dec 12 #16

Some Intelligent people have these conversations G_j Dec 12 #17

I agree PC BonnieJW Dec 12 #18

"so vast", you mean the one started by the big bang and that it has a lot of suns and planets? nt DontBelieveEastisEas Dec 12 #31

Again I wonder, who are all these people who claim Disaffected Dec 12 #42

Hey what's 13.8 billion light years amongst friends? Dave says Dec 12 #46

The other part of the question is time Hieronymus Phact Dec 13 #118

Is it possible? Absolutely. Have I seen any evidence? No. Think. Again. Dec 12 #19

Point taken: PCIntern Dec 12 #21

Oh well, like the poor I guess, Disaffected Dec 12 #20

Lotta video out there PCIntern Dec 12 #22

Well then, where is it? Why not cite some of it here? Disaffected Dec 12 #25

Here's one: PCIntern Dec 13 #88

Yes, which has yet to show up. Disaffected Dec 13 #113

I kind of hope these drones are aliens and they are going to zap up all the evil repukes kimbutgar Dec 12 #23

Start with the billionaires. rubbersole Dec 12 #54

Plot twist! berksdem Dec 13 #105

He does look like an alien I've seen in movies kimbutgar Dec 13 #110

Hea ive been wishing slightlv Dec 13 #107

K n R Faux pas Dec 12 #26

I would be amazed to find out we were the only beings (I had to take out intelligent after recent events) in the MLAA Dec 12 #27

The "official" explanation for Roswell has always been a joke to me Callie1979 Dec 12 #28

CHeck out the Phoenix Lights documentary Amaryllis Dec 12 #29

What amazed me at the time was how many people just dismissed it LiberalLovinLug Dec 13 #99

You might love the film, "The Gods Must be Crazy." It's hilarious.... Sogo Dec 13 #100

have rewatched it many times! Amaryllis Dec 13 #111

That was an exciting night. Mike 03 Dec 14 #138

This is a great time for DU to re-launch as a UFO site. bucolic_frolic Dec 12 #30

Well, that's my point... PCIntern Dec 12 #32

The flat earth people say the same shit. It's a nice disrtraction I guess from not having evidence thebigidea Dec 13 #104

Why stop there? ... littlemissmartypants Dec 13 #79

I hope they are the cavalry Marthe48 Dec 12 #33

this thread made me think of the old Sci Fi movie "They live" proud patriot Dec 12 #34

I like to look up... stillcool Dec 12 #35

Maybe it's the NJ "drone" thing Dave says Dec 12 #36

You might be thinking of Art Bell. Delmette2.0 Dec 13 #74

That's the guy and that's the show! Dave says Dec 13 #84

I use to listen to him every night. Delmette2.0 Dec 13 #97

Just chiming in osteopath6 Dec 12 #37

I try to keep an open mind exmodee Dec 12 #38

Physics rules. cachukis Dec 12 #39

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence PJMcK Dec 12 #40

Stop making sense! NoRethugFriends Dec 12 #62

Wow Wiz Imp Dec 12 #41

Yup. Xipe Totec Dec 12 #52

Oh really... PCIntern Dec 13 #76

I can't argue with that. Xipe Totec Dec 13 #134

hah NJCher Dec 12 #43

Exactly right. There are people who shut discussions like this down, citing 'physics' and other nonsense, SWBTATTReg Dec 13 #123

tldr NJCher Dec 13 #125

Good for you, don't read it then. But you still had to make a sarcastic remark. Nice. SWBTATTReg Dec 13 #130

It wouldn't surprise me if it was "something/someone" else FirstLight Dec 12 #45

I can't who said it "What an awesome thing if there is life out there, what an awesome thing if there isn't" Swede Dec 12 #48

Arthur C. Clarke...maybe... Kid Berwyn Dec 13 #71

Hmmm. lonely bird Dec 12 #49

"The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street" 3825-87867 Dec 12 #50

"they may not be the benevolent hope of mankind" Dave Bowman Dec 13 #81

nor should you be rajuncajdim Dec 12 #51

i have felt this way a very long time AllaN01Bear Dec 12 #53

From Ghostbusters. 3825-87867 Dec 12 #55

From your first paragraph: NewLarry Dec 12 #56

Well said NewLarry... berksdem Dec 13 #106

KnR Hekate Dec 12 #57

I beg to differ IbogaProject Dec 12 #58

Recommended. H2O Man Dec 12 #60

Thank You DET Dec 13 #63

Thank you for posting this soandso Dec 13 #65

Honestly, does it actually matter? OldEuropean Dec 13 #69

Childhood's End justaprogressive Dec 13 #70

I just started a series of paintings that are copies of cave art bif Dec 13 #77

I really like your work! I checked out a few other dates, for example May 2019. Abolishinist Dec 13 #96

Thanks!I mostly paint in acrylics bif Dec 13 #115

"...posing as non-believers..." Rob H. Dec 13 #78

I was just about to address the "posing as a nonbeliever" Croney Dec 13 #82

"And if there's life on other planets Tbear Dec 13 #90

Sounds just like certain theological discussions I avoid. Basso8vb Dec 13 #80

If sentient ETs are here out of concern for the planet, maybe they're going to come out... CoopersDad Dec 13 #83

I'm with you, but in no rush vanessa_ca Dec 13 #85

I appreciate your post. Mike 03 Dec 13 #86

Rule of thumb: PCIntern Dec 13 #87

PCIntern is a reliable observer, although I am skeptical on this subject. /nt philly_bob Dec 13 #114

sci-fi movies bigtree Dec 13 #91

The "landing strips" in South America made BC could not have been created by people on the ground. Mayans/Incas. Evolve Dammit Dec 13 #92

People shouldn't be afraid to speak out Sugarcoated Dec 13 #93

Generally, I've noticed a lot more rudeness lately. Joinfortmill Dec 13 #98

Jimmy Carter asked CIA Director Bush to brief him on UFOs, and Bush Kid Berwyn Dec 13 #101

not necessarily specific to your current subject, but there ARE reasons to "censor" ridiculous "theories" Kali Dec 13 #103

Post removed Post removed Dec 13 #119

"In the absence of evidence it is a capital mistake to theorize." cer7711 Dec 13 #108

It has likely already occurred PCIntern Dec 13 #109

I hope there are aliens and I hope they hot af too. LoveSucky Dec 13 #112

I figured they were offspring of that big pregnant white balloon that no one talks about anymore. Montauk6 Dec 13 #116

The Universe is vast, far beyond our understanding inspite of all our technological advances. HeartsCanHope Dec 13 #117

Agree. Elessar Zappa Dec 13 #121

Only arrogance would make someone believe that we are alone in the universe. OldBaldy1701E Dec 13 #122

Jeez. Iggo Dec 13 #126

I'm not afraid for you to post this also! marble falls Dec 13 #127

Finally caught a report on MSNBC with Katy Tur, and she was very focused, had good guests... Hekate Dec 13 #129

I am not afraid either ms.pamela Dec 13 #131

So long, and thanks for all the fish". EarnestPutz Dec 13 #132

I concur! The very tech we're using here could likely be of Alien origin... MartyTheGreek Dec 13 #133

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