Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

Emrys

(8,089 posts)

10. Trump spouts all sorts of things that don't end up happening

Reply to applegrove (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 13, 2024, 10:48 PM

Dec 13

I mean, the backpedalling from ending the war in a day - "easy" - can't have been some sort of tactical negotiating masterstroke, apart from the usual tactic of trying to get elected on the basis of vacuous undertakings that disappear down the memory hole or prove so wildly stupid and self-defeating that even Trump wouldn't go ahead with them.

I'm more pissed off at the rubbish he spouted about not being happy about Ukraine striking targets inside Russia with US weapons (it's struck inside Russia with homegrown weaponry for the last couple of years, and increasingly, to good effect, this year) because that's "escalatory" and he could see no good reason for it. I hope someone he'll listen to will quietly take him aside and explain it to him in words of one syllable.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

22 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Trump team in talks with Biden and Ukrainian officials about ending war with Russia [View all] applegrove Dec 13 OP

Sounds like it will take more than a phone call. nt doc03 Dec 13 #1

YET TO PRESENT ANY SPECIFICS OF A PLAN, CONCEPTUAL OR OTHERWISE BOSSHOG Dec 13 #2

Looks like Trump should have kept his powder dry about applegrove Dec 13 #3

Trump has only two settings: 1. Totally ignore 2. Smash mouth power. Irish_Dem Dec 13 #4

Candidate Trump talks tough Johonny Dec 14 #17

He lies a lot. Especially on the campaign trail. Irish_Dem Dec 14 #22

Imagine knowing Stuff BOSSHOG Dec 13 #5

Keith Kellogg, Trump's nominee for Special Envoy for Ukraine and Russia, Emrys Dec 13 #6

OMG it does not look good. applegrove Dec 13 #7

Well, if you listen to Kellogg in interviews he's given Fox News etc. in recent months (before Trump nominated him), Emrys Dec 13 #8

Good. Trump still should have not telegraphed he would applegrove Dec 13 #9

Trump spouts all sorts of things that don't end up happening Emrys Dec 13 #10

Those incursions into Russia are so Ukraine could have bargainning applegrove Dec 13 #11

I was talking about (and I believe Trump was referring to) missile strikes across the border Emrys Dec 13 #13

Okay. I vaguely remember missile strikes at arms depots applegrove Dec 13 #14

There have been many strikes by Ukraine on targets deep in Russia using homegrown drones, Emrys Dec 14 #15

Thanks for the details. applegrove Dec 14 #19

Putin lauded Trump's criticizm of the missiles. He said applegrove Dec 14 #20

Gee, and here I thought His Excellency had it all figured out. Buns_of_Fire Dec 13 #12

So basically Biden solve this so Trump can take the credit Johonny Dec 14 #16

Or Biden can take the blame if peace fails. applegrove Dec 14 #18

I think it might be more about what Putin will demand JI7 Dec 14 #21