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Emrys

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13. I was talking about (and I believe Trump was referring to) missile strikes across the border
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 11:29 PM
Dec 13

to take out weaponry and personnel that were attacking Ukraine from what had been places of safety because of the restrictions on using certain US-supplied weapons in that way. Since russia had no compunction about striking anywhere and everywhere it could in Ukraine, it seemed imbalanced, and fears of Putin going through with his threats to use nuclear weapons if A NATO country's weapons were used on Russian soil proved to be just another imaginary red line.

But yes, the drive into Kursk was partly to lure Russian troops away from other fronts, but also to provide a bargaining chip if and when negotiations start. The Ukrainians made it clear they had no intention of making the land part of Ukraine.

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Sounds like it will take more than a phone call. nt doc03 Dec 13 #1
YET TO PRESENT ANY SPECIFICS OF A PLAN, CONCEPTUAL OR OTHERWISE BOSSHOG Dec 13 #2
Looks like Trump should have kept his powder dry about applegrove Dec 13 #3
Trump has only two settings: 1. Totally ignore 2. Smash mouth power. Irish_Dem Dec 13 #4
Candidate Trump talks tough Johonny Dec 14 #17
He lies a lot. Especially on the campaign trail. Irish_Dem Dec 14 #22
Imagine knowing Stuff BOSSHOG Dec 13 #5
Keith Kellogg, Trump's nominee for Special Envoy for Ukraine and Russia, Emrys Dec 13 #6
OMG it does not look good. applegrove Dec 13 #7
Well, if you listen to Kellogg in interviews he's given Fox News etc. in recent months (before Trump nominated him), Emrys Dec 13 #8
Good. Trump still should have not telegraphed he would applegrove Dec 13 #9
Trump spouts all sorts of things that don't end up happening Emrys Dec 13 #10
Those incursions into Russia are so Ukraine could have bargainning applegrove Dec 13 #11
I was talking about (and I believe Trump was referring to) missile strikes across the border Emrys Dec 13 #13
Okay. I vaguely remember missile strikes at arms depots applegrove Dec 13 #14
There have been many strikes by Ukraine on targets deep in Russia using homegrown drones, Emrys Dec 14 #15
Thanks for the details. applegrove Dec 14 #19
Putin lauded Trump's criticizm of the missiles. He said applegrove Dec 14 #20
Gee, and here I thought His Excellency had it all figured out. Buns_of_Fire Dec 13 #12
So basically Biden solve this so Trump can take the credit Johonny Dec 14 #16
Or Biden can take the blame if peace fails. applegrove Dec 14 #18
I think it might be more about what Putin will demand JI7 Dec 14 #21
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