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Ocelot II

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22. But why? If he was working against the US he must have had a reason.

Thu Dec 26, 2024, 06:11 PM

Dec 26

Why would a long-time, well-respected former federal judge, a centrist Democrat once considered by a Democratic president to have been suitable for a Supreme Court appointment, be working against the US? If he was, he had to be working for someone or something. Was he being paid to sabotage the Trump investigations? If so, why did he appoint Jack Smith? Was he secretly in league with Trump? I'm curious about his supposed motive and possible co-conspirators.

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I'm not meaning to cause trouble or to place blame [View all] Upthevibe Dec 26 OP

I'd like to know why Dem presidents always appoint or allow SheltieLover Dec 26 #1

Good point. Think. Again. Dec 26 #6

I just can't fathom why every Dem president entrusts DOJ/FBI to rethugs SheltieLover Dec 26 #17

Unless you ask Biden, you're not going to get a useful answer. Especially not here. Iggo Dec 26 #2

Presidents (other than Trump) carefully stay away from trying to manage Ocelot II Dec 26 #3

Agree. A couple other points are that a) he was viewed as a very even-handed judge and that's allegorical oracle Dec 26 #8

Because Garland isn't the villain of this story. Fiendish Thingy Dec 26 #4

I think Biden was occupied edhopper Dec 26 #5

If some of the posts here on DU are any indication... Think. Again. Dec 26 #7

If, as you imply, he was a Russian asset, doesn't that make Biden one, too? Ocelot II Dec 26 #13

I didn't imply any such thing. Think. Again. Dec 26 #14

So, if "he wasn't working for the U.S. despite his paycheck," who was he working for? Ocelot II Dec 26 #15

My implication is clearly that he was working AGAINST the U.S., not "for" it. Think. Again. Dec 26 #19

But why? If he was working against the US he must have had a reason. Ocelot II Dec 26 #22

You would have to ask him. Think. Again. Dec 26 #24

IMO, both Biden and Garland knew what a chitshow trying trump would be. trump deserved it, but it obviously didn't Silent Type Dec 26 #9

I disagree. IMO Garland purposefully dragged his feet and delayed prosecuting and jailing trump... brush Dec 26 #11

Maybe, but Biden could have picked up the phone at any time and said get it in gear or you are fired. Silent Type Dec 26 #20

Just not Rebl2 Dec 26 #23

I wish he had. Garland's foot dragging on prosecuting trump was a big factor in the criminal winning. brush Dec 28 #54

brush...... Upthevibe Dec 28 #53

Me too. Garland was a complete failure. I wish Joe had fired his ass for not going immediately after... brush Dec 28 #55

So they were afraid to act? Wow. JanMichael Dec 26 #37

What good does it do to act when you can't get your target and you enhance their hold on Silent Type Dec 26 #43

Federalist Society member Garland should've never been picked. Biden didn't owe him shit... brush Dec 26 #10

Garland was never a member of the Federalist Society. Ocelot II Dec 26 #12

He certainly is a favored leader if his multiple speeches to them are any indication. Think. Again. Dec 26 #18

I was misinformed. Garland did, however, failed to prosecute and jail... brush Dec 26 #21

Prosecutors don't jail anybody. Judges jail, and only *if* a jury finds the defendant guilty Ocelot II Dec 26 #25

Please. I think you know what I mean. We all say trump's cirmes on J6 on TV. brush Dec 26 #26

Oh, well, "we all say trump's crimes on J6 on TV." Ocelot II Dec 26 #28

You must be an attorney, sees both sides of an issue. brush Dec 26 #34

I don't know. I don't even know what that means. Ocelot II Dec 26 #38

Never mind. I see you remain an attorney who sees both sides instead of the elephant in...forget it. brush Dec 26 #41

What did you want from me? I gave you my honest opinion, Ocelot II Dec 26 #42

I don't think Biden is that disappointed, Garland and Biden are both institutionalist but there comes a point where ... uponit7771 Dec 26 #16

Republicans allowed Trump to skate twice on the impeachments. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 26 #27

Because he ForgedCrank Dec 26 #29

Obviously, 100% certainty of conviction is not a requirement for the DOJ to prosecute... Think. Again. Dec 26 #31

I never ForgedCrank Dec 26 #32

Your words... Think. Again. Dec 26 #33

ALSO "my words" ForgedCrank Dec 26 #36

Your assumption of what his opinion might have been is noted. Think. Again. Dec 26 #39

I believe ForgedCrank Dec 26 #40

Another pretty solid theory that seems to be well accepted... Think. Again. Dec 26 #45

They are ForgedCrank Dec 27 #47

nah. Think. Again. Dec 27 #48

Ok ForgedCrank Dec 27 #49

I have a theory....a concept of a theory. yellow dahlia Dec 26 #30

yellow dahlia......... Upthevibe Dec 28 #56

I don't think he likes to fire people Polybius Dec 26 #35

That has baffled me, too... GiqueCee Dec 26 #44

GiqueCee ................. Upthevibe Dec 28 #57

I am not biting. Beastly Boy Dec 26 #46

He probably couldn't come up with a good reason that wouldn't make him look bad Jose Garcia Dec 27 #50

Because we tend to care more for appearances than actions? randr Dec 28 #51

In my opinion, President Biden was in an awkward situation due to ecstatic Dec 28 #52

ecstatic........ Upthevibe Dec 28 #58