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Bettie

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22. With that orange clown

Sun Dec 29, 2024, 03:39 PM

Dec 29

running on their side, they called her a whore, for having sexual relationships....at all. Men (and white women) will never allow a woman to be president. Never.

And you're right. They lost for lack of penises.

And white women largely went along with it.

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If not for the misogynists and racists... [View all] True Dough Dec 29 OP

What we could have had... yorkster Dec 29 #1

And the worst part is we are talking about the misogynists and racists in OUR OWN party. Scrivener7 Dec 29 #2

Iowa was a 50/50 state Bettie Dec 29 #3

The numbers of Democrats who voted for Joe but not Kamala would have allowed her to win easily. Scrivener7 Dec 29 #4

Right? I put that down to Bettie Dec 29 #6

It would break my heart too much to say never. But for the next election, I really hope we don't Scrivener7 Dec 29 #9

With that orange clown Bettie Dec 29 #22

This white woman is one of the 47% that didn't Scrivener7 Dec 29 #23

There are millions of us. And I'd guess the strategies used to suppress votes lostnfound Dec 29 #47

I assume everyone here Bettie Dec 29 #56

It's a 5% difference between 47% to 53% that's Not Exactly "largely". It IS howver Devastating in it's Outcome 😔... electric_blue68 Dec 29 #53

Not counted: people who tried to vote but their ballots ended up misdirected or thrown out lostnfound Dec 29 #46

Is Black still defined as having even a DROP of black blood? maddiemom Dec 29 #21

His family was haole, but he was raised in Indonesia and Hawai'i Hekate Dec 29 #31

Not talking about "perception" of others here; maddiemom Monday #70

President Obama won Iowa both times n/t MichMan Dec 29 #27

Yes, he did Bettie Dec 29 #57

THIS. onecaliberal Dec 29 #13

And that helped defeat Hillary too. Asshole trump benefitted both times from it. brush Dec 29 #51

Yup. Lots of people just plain suck. Joinfortmill Dec 29 #5

A lot of people supposedly on our side stayed home Kaleva Dec 29 #7

I do wonder how much of that was due to the voter suppression tactics mdbl Dec 29 #8

Dems controlled the state in 2024 Kaleva Dec 29 #10

Yes I got that. I was talking about states like GA where suppression tactics were in force mdbl Dec 29 #17

Georgia had record turnout SickOfTheOnePct Dec 29 #19

GA turnout was 64% of registered voters. The distance from 100% leaves a lot of room for voter suppression spooky3 Dec 29 #35

And yet SickOfTheOnePct Dec 29 #38

But that doesn't address the reality that voter suppression continues to be a problem. spooky3 Dec 29 #40

We'll just have to agree to disagree n/t SickOfTheOnePct Dec 29 #42

Facts are facts, not opinions. Read the Brennan report I linked if you are interested in facts. nt spooky3 Dec 29 #43

I did read it SickOfTheOnePct Dec 29 #44

I think we can agree that turnout for Harris was lower then it was for Biden in Dem strongholds Kaleva Dec 29 #60

Voter suppression tactics throughout Red states had a strong influence on the outcome Hekate Dec 29 #33

And the Brennan Center reports research on it spooky3 Dec 29 #36

Trump has made claiming elections have been "rigged" a dirty word. We need to RECLAIM & REFRAME Hekate Dec 29 #45

I believe it, and the fact tge Voting Rights Act got partly defanged x years ago. electric_blue68 Dec 29 #54

Mi isn't a red state. Nor is WI or PA Kaleva Dec 29 #58

And yet, New Jim Crow has come to town Hekate Dec 29 #59

Not going to be able to do that in Mi despite Trump winning the state Kaleva Dec 29 #61

I was writing about voter suppression tactics around the country at large, & settled on the term "red states"... Hekate Dec 29 #62

I was talking about how Harris got fewer votes then Biden did in traditional Dem strongholds Kaleva Dec 29 #63

I see. Wasn't that the area that Jillski Stein cultivated? And encouraged a lot of Muslim-Americans to... Hekate Dec 29 #64

Using that standard, political ads could be considered voter suppression Kaleva Dec 29 #65

If you choose to construe her activities (and Russia's) that narrowly, so be it. But apparently... Hekate Dec 29 #66

Harris underperformed in other regions too Kaleva Tuesday #71

The home of "uncommitted", "Muslims for Trump" and "Killer Kamala" LeftInTX Dec 29 #52

"make him look like a total bitch"??? WTF does that even mean? Sexist much? niyad Dec 29 #11

For a language without specific gender for things like table or chair, we sure use a lot of gendered terms EdmondDantes_ Dec 29 #25

I was sure after that debate that she would beat him easily DeeDeeNY Dec 29 #12

Bitch MuirWoods Dec 29 #14

Trump isn't a member of society. He's barely human. Autumn Dec 29 #15

Yes. Nt spooky3 Dec 29 #26

Thank you iemanja Dec 29 #55

The Most Experienced Person Mr.Bee Dec 29 #16

"...and Jabba The Hut out." 3catwoman3 Dec 29 #37

You are correct cyclonefence Dec 29 #18

It's worse than that... appmanga Dec 29 #28

I thought her campaign was flawless, too. CrispyQ Dec 29 #32

Agree, the misogyny was strong (also racism, but we did manage to elect Obama) - TBF Dec 29 #20

And when things get bad enough again... appmanga Dec 29 #29

That was a beat down. He had nothin.' She would make a great President. Loved Walz too.. Evolve Dammit Dec 29 #24

I can't fathom why she lost. I_UndergroundPanther Dec 29 #30

Mothers and teachers Godot51 Dec 29 #34

The criminal won and the prosecutor lost Blue Owl Dec 29 #39

Exactly! Pundits and everyone else has weighed in about this loss. But, most don't talk about the real reason PortTack Dec 29 #41

The smirk on his face says he's scared to death of her dai13sy Dec 29 #48

All she needed was a fuckface billionaire to buy the electon for her for $250M. Orrex Dec 29 #49

methinks someday we will know what really happened to the vote... bluboid Dec 29 #50

Yeah, they got more votes than us Polybius Monday #68

And don't forget that Donnie chickened out of a second debate Blue_Tires Monday #67

There's a whole list of reasons why Polybius Monday #69