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moondust

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40. Not surprised.

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 02:49 PM

Dec 30

I have a pet theory that the GQP learned a big lesson from the Watergate fiasco and the Nixon pardon: do whatever you gotta do to grab power and once you have it you can just pardon all your guilty co-conspirators. They had time to develop this MO during the Carter years and were ready to go with it in 1980. Look at all the dirty tricks they've pulled since then and it's not a big surprise that they have devolved into little more than a self-serving crime syndicate headed by a convicted felon who loves to hand out pardons.

The presidency of Ronald Reagan was marked by numerous scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any president of the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandals_of_the_Ronald_Reagan_administration

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A Four-Decade Secret: One Man's Story of Sabotaging Carter's Re-election [View all] DBoon Dec 30 OP

I remember that slimy situation. MineralMan Dec 30 #1

And should be a lesson to those that claim Republicans used to be decent. FHRRK Dec 30 #53

The Last Decent Republican President was Ike Deep State Witch Dec 31 #94

So Reagan was using the captivity of these people for his political purposes much like Iran did Walleye Dec 30 #2

The captivity of American citizens NameAlreadyTaken Dec 30 #8

Of course he was Jilly_in_VA Dec 30 #26

it is not news to me. nt barbtries Dec 30 #32

And reporters knew it too, but were working on behalf of intel svc, nothing new but that's the reality of the MSM msfiddlestix Dec 31 #91

A good many of us knew this at the time. niyad Dec 30 #76

Never trust a republican. Kingofalldems Dec 30 #3

Actually, it was obvious what the Republicans leftyladyfrommo Dec 30 #4

Obvious, yet covered up. Kid Berwyn Dec 30 #23

Recall NPR reporting the strange story at that time about how, prior to his inauguration, allegorical oracle Dec 30 #38

Poppy Bush got on the horn. Kid Berwyn Dec 30 #43

He was president for 12 long effing years! Clouds Passing Dec 30 #47

Right now, legacy media should be airing this on all channels. Baitball Blogger Dec 30 #5

Connelly was pissed because the Democrats "dissed" him. haele Dec 30 #9

i believe gov. connally was in the vehicle with jfk when he was murdered in texas at that dawn5651 Dec 30 #17

Knowing how devious he was, doesn't it make you wonder? Baitball Blogger Dec 30 #22

that has entered my mind a few times also gopiscrap Dec 30 #42

Yeah, he was shot, too. And he was a Democrat at that time. nt allegorical oracle Dec 30 #39

Right. Thinsg that make you go hmmm. yellow dahlia Dec 30 #63

Soon as i saw the name - I wondered IF that was was him. Effer! Wow. electric_blue68 Dec 31 #86

And he was shot as well, but survived. Rhiannon12866 Dec 31 #87

And George HW Bush was there, too. BComplex Jan 2 #108

The "malaise" thing was a sabotage effort as well spapeggy Dec 30 #6

They cherry picked it misanthrope Dec 30 #34

I actually saw that (Buchanan) word in a story today underpants Dec 30 #52

Those of us who read the book The October Surprise MadameButterfly Dec 30 #7

Yeah, Ronzo... GiqueCee Dec 30 #14

Repugs ALWAYS disregard the Logan Act. slightlv Dec 30 #71

These people... GiqueCee Dec 30 #75

He was lionized... 2naSalit Dec 30 #15

I mean the fact they were released before the damn bible Raygun laid his hand on cooled off was it for many n/t Cheezoholic Dec 30 #54

Said to my husband this morning - yellow dahlia Dec 30 #64

Of course, that lit a green light for our upcoming felonius POTUS, who was *convicted* and still elected ... eppur_se_muova Dec 30 #83

Let's face it: all the Republican presidents since Eisenhower have been crooks MadameButterfly Dec 30 #10

And here is another husband communication. yellow dahlia Dec 30 #65

Thom Hartmann pretty much B.See Dec 30 #82

Thanks for alerting me to this MadameButterfly Dec 31 #100

Yes, that's the article. B.See Dec 31 #102

Not unlike Nixon's machinations with Anna Chennault in 1968 Ocelot II Dec 30 #11

The Repugs can only win when they cheat. yellow dahlia Dec 30 #67

This was a well know dirty deal perpetrated by the Republicans. It came out after Reagan was sworn in as president. patphil Dec 30 #12

In 1980 The NY Times published stories that there was no connection @ all between the Reagan's .... Botany Dec 30 #13

I recall the response from the Reagan team when questions started being asked tanyev Dec 30 #20

The hostages in Iran-Contra weren't the ones from Tehran misanthrope Dec 30 #37

Look @ post # 24 Botany Dec 30 #48

Anybody besides me remember Gary Webb's reporting on the cia/cocaine niyad Dec 30 #79

Mr. Webb won a Pulitzer price for his work on the CIA/crack/cocaine/Contra connections Botany Dec 31 #96

I always had my doubts about his "suicide". niyad Dec 31 #97

Just like the law enforcement official who worked for Florida's D.O.T. and discovered the corruption.. Botany Dec 31 #98

Or Karen Silkwood's "one-car crash" where all her notes disappeared, niyad Dec 31 #99

They then sold Iran missiles and aircraft parts used the $ for running Crack! IbogaProject Dec 30 #16

I'm still willing to believe that the failed and deadly hostage rescue attempt was sabotaged NBachers Dec 30 #18

Why would you think that? FHRRK Dec 30 #56

Republicans are Anti-American scum. ZonkerHarris Dec 30 #19

didn't matter, the media was in LOVE w/ the movee star reagan. pansypoo53219 Dec 30 #21

3 Generations of Bushes, Nixon, NAZIs and the CIA Kid Berwyn Dec 30 #24

This is such an important posting. yellow dahlia Dec 30 #77

You are most welcome! An addendum... Kid Berwyn Jan 1 #103

Thank you. yellow dahlia Jan 1 #105

Disgusting people. Scrivener7 Dec 30 #25

bani sadr has been on record about his deal to release the hostages rampartd Dec 30 #27

earlier than that gopiscrap Dec 30 #44

no doubt rampartd Dec 30 #46

Add, Codifer Dec 30 #72

Boy she was a peach Botany Dec 30 #50

this extracurricular diplomacy costs lives rampartd Dec 30 #57

It cost the older brother of a childhood friend his life. He was a Marine up by Laos and the DMZ ... Botany Dec 30 #58

i was a marine in those days rampartd Dec 30 #60

What a waste Botany Dec 30 #68

I still have to visit his grave. Botany Dec 30 #69

Interesting that Connolly shows up in more than one scenario. yellow dahlia Dec 30 #78

e howard hunt is another rampartd Dec 31 #88

Reagan committed treason to beat President Carter LetMyPeopleVote Jan 1 #106

another instance is the b1 bomber rampartd Jan 2 #107

unforgivable slime Evolve Dammit Dec 30 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Omnipresent Dec 30 #29

Recommended. H2O Man Dec 30 #30

Netanyahu Gingermolly Dec 30 #31

This is what I suspect. Wicked Blue Dec 31 #92

Let me see Cherokee100 Dec 30 #33

Remember the hostages being released boonecreek Dec 30 #35

Like what Nixon pulled in Vietnam. The Unmitigated Gall Dec 30 #36

As I recall, Codifer Dec 30 #74

Not surprised. moondust Dec 30 #40

Ben BARNES & John CONNOLY - the original hawk tuahs UTUSN Dec 30 #41

Treasonous republicons have been screwing over America BoRaGard Dec 30 #45

4-decade lie mamacita75 Dec 30 #49

And how the media has been cowed and corrupted. Wicked Blue Dec 31 #93

Reagan was a POS when Governor of CA and he wouldn't have beaten Carter in a fair fight. bluesbassman Dec 30 #51

republicons owe America an apology BoRaGard Dec 30 #55

I won't hold my breath on a GOP apology IzzaNuDay Dec 30 #62

and Iraq and Vietnam and Guatemala and the entire future of the world. mahina Dec 31 #89

Connally underpants Dec 30 #59

I said last night - yellow dahlia Dec 30 #61

Sickening! 🤬 nt Raine Dec 30 #66

Kick usonian Dec 30 #70

Let's not forget George Will Zorro Dec 30 #73

The fairy tales we were told as children.... Thunderbeast Dec 30 #80

Awesome post! stillcool Dec 30 #81

I wish we had bad windows Historic NY Dec 31 #84

In 1980 all of my Art School roommates/friends knew the deal... BigmanPigman Dec 31 #85

Let me get this straight. ReRe Dec 31 #90

This Is Why I'm Convinced that TCF Stole This Election Deep State Witch Dec 31 #95

The elite billionaire class has such a wealth advantage... Blue Owl Dec 31 #101

Reagan won by committing treason LetMyPeopleVote Jan 1 #104