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Cirsium

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97. You ask the impossible

Sat Jan 11, 2025, 12:48 AM

Jan 11

I am unwilling to avoid talking about politics and about the national crisis, not for a football game, not for anything. I am unwilling to be silent. I am unwilling to overlook abuse. I am unwilling to overlook the fact that someone supports Trump and MAGA. I am unwilling to normalize fascism. I am unwilling to entertain MAGA talking points as though they were legitimate political opinions. I am unwilling to disappear the victims of abuse. I am unwilling to engage in "business as usual" while the planet burns and an authoritarian nightmare unfolds.

Which of those stands would you recommend that I abandon?

How do you propose one could make nice with MAGA supporters without abandoning those stands?

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If Obama and Trump can be cordial, you can watch a football game with your neighbor [View all] Renew Deal Jan 10 OP

In general I would agree EdmondDantes_ Jan 10 #1

They are there for a function newdeal2 Jan 10 #2

This. B.See Jan 10 #12

Never. I don't associate with magats, or with people who do. brush Jan 10 #83

That's it exactly.... Think. Again. Jan 10 #53

If I see Obama watch a game at Mar A Lago ... Bluetus Jan 10 #76

Not the same thing at all. Phoenix61 Jan 10 #3

Really. Not the same thing At All. Cha Jan 10 #6

and this. B.See Jan 10 #13

+1. I'm in the "Be like Obama" camp, at least for a little while. I'm hoping trump will have a Silent Type Jan 10 #4

I'm in the "Be like Obama" camp for the purpose of ensuring... dchill Jan 10 #31

Barack took one for the team, as was called for under the circumstances. hatrack Jan 10 #5

... and this. B.See Jan 10 #14

They were forced together by protocol LuvLoogie Jan 10 #7

.. and this too. B.See Jan 10 #15

Neighbors are 24/7 - sorry, stupid thread. NoMoreRepugs Jan 10 #8

They are time? Renew Deal Jan 10 #10

Nope. Aristus Jan 10 #9

Exactly. B.See Jan 10 #16

I would sooner eat warm cow shit that be in the same room with that insurrectionist/rapist. Ferrets are Cool Jan 10 #11

Reconsider your disrespect for Obama, he had no choice who he sat next to MagickMuffin Jan 10 #67

I'm an old fart who has become stone hearted when it comes to magats. Ferrets are Cool Jan 10 #85

That I can agree with, I would not have engaged with * MagickMuffin Jan 10 #87

It's affirmative , yes, I agree. Drum Jan 10 #17

Nope. Nope. Nope. I doubt President Obama would call trump out of the blue to watch a game or hang out. tulipsandroses Jan 10 #18

If you can, fine. But Trump voters handed a loaded gun to someone who has been threatening Ms. Toad Jan 10 #19

So well said. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 10 #81

Thank you. Ms. Toad Jan 10 #86

No Drama OBAMA was cordial, Drumpf was inserting himself for attention. UTUSN Jan 10 #20

Obama is a politician Keepthesoulalive Jan 10 #21

Nah. A funeral is a social obligation, and not about the attendee, so cordial behavior RockRaven Jan 10 #22

Water & oil don't mix. nt William769 Jan 10 #23

False NameAlreadyTaken Jan 10 #24

I prefer to socialize with people I like and respect Quiet Em Jan 10 #25

True, but it's not REQUIRED of everyone. elleng Jan 10 #26

Seems to me Pres.O drew the short straw and had take one for the team... brush Jan 10 #27

I think they have assigned seating based on seniority: 1 Clinton, 2 Bush, 3 Obama, 4 Trump. LeftInTX Jan 10 #30

Yes and protocol would have put Michelle next to Traitor for the event Arazi Jan 10 #32

Michelle had another event. I don't think Trump was why she skipped. LeftInTX Jan 10 #34

??? Klarkashton Jan 10 #28

Not really the same thing though is it? Meowmee Jan 10 #29

You think the Obamas would go to MAL to watch a game w Traitor? Arazi Jan 10 #33

If Obama had a choice of where to sit no way would he have picked that seat. Hope22 Jan 10 #35

Not one chance in hell. KentuckyWoman Jan 10 #36

OMG, the orange one was smiling the first genuine smile I've ever seen on him. hedda_foil Jan 10 #37

The ill mannered, vulgar Turd idiotically asked Obama the question inside the National Cathedral ... Tarzanrock Jan 10 #39

I don't think so. Lunabell Jan 10 #38

I can't and I won't. La Coliniere Jan 10 #40

Not only no, but fuck no. Paladin Jan 10 #41

Bullshit !!! SamKnause Jan 10 #42

It's way beyond "politics" Martin Eden Jan 10 #43

But you don't really know what they were saying ecstatic Jan 10 #44

For me, it's not about politics. It's about morals. City Lights Jan 10 #45

Fuck no. Happy Hoosier Jan 10 #46

lol what on earth WhiskeyGrinder Jan 10 #47

At first I thought it was the Onion. Emile Jan 10 #48

Wealthy, powerful people can afford to be cordial to people who wish them harm. They will be just fine. Autumn Jan 10 #49

Suggesting who people should associate with... LuckyCharms Jan 10 #50

I can't abide... Hugin Jan 10 #51

So, it's bad to scold people for their political views - views that are themselves dismissive and disrespectful of Solly Mack Jan 10 #52

Letting anyone think you're Okay with their hate is wrong. Think. Again. Jan 10 #54

But I dont want to Johonny Jan 10 #55

Why not just pretend to agree with them, if the goal is to make them feel better? ExciteBike66 Jan 10 #56

Is that the goal? Renew Deal Jan 10 #59

Be a jerk how, by having standards? ExciteBike66 Jan 10 #61

I mean, s**t, do i have to hang out with neighbors who are registered sex offenders now? ExciteBike66 Jan 10 #62

You forgot to ask about Hitler Renew Deal Jan 10 #64

No, a convicted sex offender who has served his sentence is about right. ExciteBike66 Jan 10 #73

It is possible to decline an invitation Bettie Jan 10 #68

I agree Renew Deal Jan 10 #72

False equivalency get the red out Jan 10 #57

Ummm... no ZDU Jan 10 #58

Im a individual. Just because they can The Third Doctor Jan 10 #60

A non sequitur is all that I can think of as a response. UniqueUserName Jan 10 #63

I just followed your advice Renew Deal Jan 10 #65

If I am at a function where there are MAGAts Bettie Jan 10 #66

I disagree with assertions of this article entirely standingtall Jan 10 #69

Effing hell No! samplegirl Jan 10 #70

"If Obama and Trump can be cordial, you can watch a football game with your neighbor" LudwigPastorius Jan 10 #71

I don't associate with Nazis JoseBalow Jan 10 #74

My neighbors are trumpets, and I don't watch football Conjuay Jan 10 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Wifes husband Jan 10 #77

Find ways to get along? Cirsium Jan 10 #78

Wasn't this taken at President Carter's funeral? MorbidButterflyTat Jan 10 #79

Obama had no choice who he was seated next to wryter2000 Jan 10 #80

As someone who is a sexual assault survivor.... usedtobedemgurl Jan 10 #82

You ask the impossible Cirsium Jan 10 #84

I actually was talking and rebuking the OP. usedtobedemgurl Jan 10 #91

I should just quit Cirsium Jan 11 #96

It is fine. usedtobedemgurl Jan 11 #98

The OP has been posting since you asked your question Arazi Jan 10 #95

Kicking again since the OP is posting this morning Arazi Jan 11 #106

I have a feeling... appmanga Jan 10 #88

You Derisively Mention "Righteous Lectures".... ProfessorGAC Jan 10 #89

Nothing like smell of hypocrisy. Any time of the day. Autumn Jan 10 #90

If Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, and Mao were alive I wouldn't watch a football game with them. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 10 #92

Well, Obama was always a little WEAK that way.... Jack Valentino Jan 10 #93

Show me a picture of Franklin Roosevelt making nice with HITLER, then we'll talk-- Jack Valentino Jan 10 #94

You ask the impossible Cirsium Jan 11 #97

President Obama is a class act. Patton French Jan 11 #99

There is a difference between being cordial at a funeral and pretending for 4 hours that they didn't vote for Hitler maxrandb Jan 11 #100

That's ridiculous. Scrivener7 Jan 11 #101

No, I can't. GoCubsGo Jan 11 #102

Unfortunately, you (and I) are the minority here. PennRalphie Jan 11 #103

I guarantee Southern_gent Jan 11 #107

Nobody is bragging. Today's Republicans are just genuinely unlikeable. Quiet Em Jan 11 #110

Silly question Southern_gent Jan 11 #112

LOL Not a chance in hell. My dumbfuck neighbors can all die in horror, for the horror they put on us. mucholderthandirt Jan 11 #104

No. Sky Jewels Jan 11 #105

I'll meet you halfway. Mike 03 Jan 11 #108

Barack Obama is one of the nicest people on the planet jmowreader Jan 11 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Jan 11 #111

Kim Jong Un loves the NBA DemocratSinceBirth Jan 12 #113