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ancianita

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75. The OP writes "I never want to hear..." "Disillusionment" is solely your interpretation, and thanks for your thoughts.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:56 PM
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"I never want to hear..." is a statement of permanence.
It 'never wants to hear' any post of Biden OR the Felon saying it. Disillusionment, as you interpret it, is usually a temporary emotion that can drive what one says and does, but one needs to be careful about using always and never driven by a temporary emotion.
It's more helpful to sit with one's disillusionment than to later say "oh I really didn't mean that."

Appreciate your effort, but gotta say that as long as you choose to interpret the OP as disillusionment, any reader can also reasonably interpret "never want to hear" as a permanent removing of oneself from 'small d' democratic talk that reflects on America as an "idea," which Joe Biden has claimed for years. It can also be interpreted as a more permanent loss of faith in ideas upheld and defended by Americans since the founding.

But historically our losses don't reflect the best of our party or the country. Disillusion prevents one from an historical and/or numbers perspective -- that the majority of this country has not voted GOP for a long time, and this time, not for the criminality that surrounds the Felon or the Heritage ideas that will hurt them if enacted. Many high visibility figures have said this.

Overall, the words "never want" only reflect a personal reality. If they prove any relatable exterior reality, it's that rule of law, equality under the law, are down. But not out.

That's just my opinion.

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The OP writes of disillusionment. To be dis-illusioned is to free oneself from an illusion lostnfound Saturday #74
The OP writes "I never want to hear..." "Disillusionment" is solely your interpretation, and thanks for your thoughts. ancianita Saturday #75
Fair points, but on the other hand, pinning one's hope for "democracy" on the U.S. may be antiquated idea lostnfound 2 hrs ago #79
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