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GreatGazoo

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1. Simplistic and wrong
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 02:05 PM
Thursday
"Trump is not a fascist because, unlike fascism, ‘Trumpism’ does not constitute a coherent ideology. In fact, there is a sense in which Trump is not really an ideological politician at all...Hungarian historian and philosopher Gyorgy Lukacs pointed out in the epilogue to his book ‘The Destruction of Reason’, published in 1953, it is simply impossible for fascist ideology to serve as a dominant ideology in Europe or America in the post-World War II era." - Graham Hryce


https://www.azerbaycan24.com/en/donald-trump-is-the-furthest-thing-from-the-fascist-his-enemies-brand-him/#google_vignette

Sticking my neck out a bit. I know how popular name-calling is but 10-years of claiming "Trump is Hitler" has not led to good results. It fundamentally misunderstands where we are. It is like being 8 runs behind in a baseball game and screaming "We need to score a touchdown!"

Trump is a wealthy heir and real estate developer and a media personality who will say anything, take any position and switch sides without any self-reflection. He has a Bachelors in Economics. He has no ideology beyond decadence and old fashioned kleptocracy. He is a salesman who knows how to listen and then speak back to Americans using the words and phrases they commonly use as a way influence and manipulate them.

The sooner we deal with who Trump really is and do what really works the better. Comfortable "experts" can get it all wrong and then run off to Canada but most us don't have that luxury. As Sun Tzu famously advised: Know Your Enemy.

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Simplistic and wrong GreatGazoo Thursday #1
Excellent points, but tRump's degree in Economics is dubious and the "running away" is a canard Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #3
A tariff is a tax but it is one that seeks changes in a foreign vs domestic dynamic GreatGazoo Thursday #13
The problem with that logic is that Trump is a useful tool Ms. Toad Thursday #11
You are confusing Nazism with Fascism... AntiFascist Thursday #17
No voice/free exit GusBob Thursday #21
This is the same real estate developer and media personality that attempted a self-coup AZProgressive Thursday #22
Fascist is as fascist does Martin Eden Friday #31
I don't approve of this. AmericaUnderSiege Thursday #2
Freedom does include running away to fight from afar or another day. Just like boycotting is a freedom Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #4
Fair enough. But I don't see that in most of this. AmericaUnderSiege Thursday #6
You generally only hear about the more prominent ones because they are prominent. Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #9
True. I often feel guilty about the things I don't do to help. AmericaUnderSiege Thursday #12
Be kind to yourself. If you don't take care of yourself your ability becomes limited. Forgive yourself. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #14
What is up with the misogynistic slur? Celerity Friday #23
I don't accept your premise. AmericaUnderSiege Friday #24
What is up with the misogynistic slur? ('pussies' used as a word for cowards) You did not respond to my initial enquiry. Celerity Friday #25
I'm not taking this bait. AmericaUnderSiege Friday #26
It's not bait. You used a misogynistic slur and now try to ignore that fact away. You using it is offensive to me as Celerity Friday #29
It's his business as to whether to leave or not. I would if I could. elocs Thursday #7
It's your business what to do. But when you try to extract moral credit for it, that's us. AmericaUnderSiege Thursday #8
Most of my ancestors "ran away" from their countries of origin Mariana Thursday #10
Those were (I assume) ordinary folk escaping dire conditions. AmericaUnderSiege Thursday #19
it's always this way Skittles Thursday #18
Yup. And this has been happening always. AmericaUnderSiege Thursday #20
Cool story bruv... Celerity Friday #27
Thank you for your appreciation, bro... AmericaUnderSiege Friday #28
I am a cis female. Celerity Friday #30
We each have but one life. keopeli Thursday #5
For those of us not moving to Canada or Ireland GreatGazoo Thursday #15
Understandable but futile, like moving from Berlin to Warsaw in 1936 0rganism Thursday #16
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