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dpibel

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17. At least you concede the bias
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 07:45 PM
Mar 27

That's what the "also" in your subject line means, isn't it?

As you say elsewhere in this subthread, MAGAts think the NYT is biased, too.

The problem with that equivalence is that when MAGAts are asked for examples of this left-wing bias, crickets ensue. They believe it because they're told it's true, not because they read and draw their own conclusions.

Those who think the NYT has a distinctly anti-Democrat stance, OTOH, can point to 8 years of slagging Bill Clinton (did you know that the Whitewater non-scandal was an NYT production?), a presidential election campaign of slagging Hilary Clinton, and endless screeching about the dotage of Joe Biden.

Those who think the NYT may even have a rightward lean can point to the fact that it was the preeminent propaganda tool in thrashing up support for GW Bush's splendid little war. And the fact that the NYT has spilled a great deal of ink normalizing Trump.

So, as usual, the argument (and I use that term loosely) that both sides think ill of the NYT, thus it must be great and true and unbiased fails for the same reason that most both-sides arguments do: The two sides are not, in fact, equal at all.

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Rhetorical question: Why is anyone still reading or subscribing to the NYTs. jrthin Mar 27 #1
No SocialDemocrat61 Mar 27 #2
Sad how far that paper has fallen. And the RW claims it's "way to the left kerry-is-my-prez Mar 27 #11
Not to DU's high standards. maxsolomon Mar 27 #18
we aren't PAYING them to check in with "The White Lotus" while discussing secure material lapfog_1 Mar 27 #3
also a fairly cogent (and accessible) handling of the issue stopdiggin Mar 27 #4
The NYTs give w/one hand and takes back w/the other. jrthin Mar 27 #8
as opposed to those that are busy shoveling manure stopdiggin Mar 27 #10
Then stop following the particular argument that has circle "round, and done to the point jrthin Mar 27 #12
nah. as long as someone feels obligated to trot out a particular tired old saw stopdiggin Mar 27 #15
At least you concede the bias dpibel Mar 27 #17
I can point to 'loads' of reporting where the Times has taken a chunk out of Republicans stopdiggin Mar 27 #19
Fair or not fair? dpibel Mar 27 #20
what on earth makes you think I should (or would) be compelled stopdiggin Mar 28 #21
This you? dpibel Mar 28 #22
if I WANTED to, yes. stopdiggin Mar 28 #23
There's always the supporting your argument part dpibel Mar 28 #24
the 'argument' doesn't need support stopdiggin Mar 28 #26
The way that they diminish the importance: Oh, you want to watch White Lotus Prairie Gates Mar 27 #5
Y'know, that server Hillary Clinton had Bettie Mar 27 #6
It's Regime media. bronxiteforever Mar 27 #7
"the morning" IS editorial. maxsolomon Mar 27 #9
News analysis, actually dpibel Mar 27 #14
"News Analysis" gives reporters leeway to include opinion maxsolomon Mar 28 #27
I check Fox most days there's a big screwup hoping to see some sanity. kerry-is-my-prez Mar 27 #13
Jaw dropping. Ms. Toad Mar 27 #16
You'd almost think there was an agenda... dpibel Mar 28 #25
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