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63. I don't blame scientists for leaving if they have no work here. But Snyder leaving is a gut punch.
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 10:42 AM
Sunday

I took Snyder's instruction, "do not obey in advance," to heart. His call to be brave in his book "On Tyranny" was inspiring. As he said, authoritarians only have the power we give them. And being in fear of them and letting them change your behavior gives authoritarians power.

I totally understand why Snyder and his wife took those jobs at Toronto University. As he said, it was for "personal" reasons. He is protecting his family. And he doesn't want to end up like Navalny. I want him to be safe too. But it's still a gut punch.

What Snyder leaving the US tells us is that the US is already too far gone for people to stand up and fight. Maybe it is. But I can't accept that. Not yet. I'm going to keep fighting. I'm going to keep showing up with my protest signs at my local Tesla dealership. I'm going to keep contacting my representatives. Pressure works, as I am sure Snyder will tell us from Toronto.

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I support academics, but there is a major lack of fortitude going on. AmericaUnderSiege Thursday #1
I don't blame them. moondust Friday #2
I do blame them. AmericaUnderSiege Friday #3
What?! yardwork Friday #16
He can't move to Canada *after* challenging Yale to fire him? AmericaUnderSiege Friday #21
What brave thing are you doing, anonymous keyboard warrior? yardwork Friday #33
I'm not in a position to do brave things. They are. AmericaUnderSiege Friday #35
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Give it time. LisaL Friday #48
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Majority of their colleagues could soon become unemployed. LisaL Friday #26
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400 millions pays for a lot of jobs. LisaL Friday #28
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Bullshit. yardwork Friday #40
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Timothy Snyder is the author of 'On Tyranny'. notinkansas Friday #5
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100% true mahina Friday #15
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I don't blame scientists for leaving if they have no work here. But Snyder leaving is a gut punch. SunSeeker Sunday #63
So this is what we are facing. orangecrush Friday #49
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