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Ian_rd

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17. This could fucking happen. Especially in a place like Florida ...

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:35 AM

Jan 2013

... where powerful Republicans have more than once demonstrated their willingness to subvert democracy in order to win elections.

Normally, even if such a plan were pursued legally and within "the rules," public outcry across the political spectrum would prevent it from even leaving the gate. But things are different now. The Republican Party, especially the base, has degraded in some aspects into a pseudo-religious cult, where they believe so strongly that Obama is a threat to their liberty and even their lives, that he must be stopped at all costs, democracy be damned, to save them and their children from the Muslim Socialist Gay Fascist Dictatorship he's currently forcing onto our freedom-loving country.

And with that, public outcry would be largely along partisan lines and therefore seen as yet another partisan disagreement without a "right" answer, even while electoral votes are rigged to go to the loser of the popular vote.

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How Republicans Plan To Rig The Next Presidential Election, In Six Pictures [View all] kpete Jan 2013 OP

Lie, cheat, and steal....the Republican mantra. AzDar Jan 2013 #1

Question: So what are we going to do about it? Rockyj Jan 2013 #65

This is the question I've been asking. We can sign a petition. That's what we've got so far? Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2013 #80

expose the gerrymandering in the media blue_heron Jan 2013 #97

was romney believing these gerrymandered maps? blue_heron Jan 2013 #98

Ultimately The Only Way You Will Stop Them Is With Literally "Smash Mouth" Politics TheMastersNemesis Jan 2013 #2

Yep. And they will never go away, as much as some may hope or dream. I used to think they were silvershadow Jan 2013 #37

Lexicographical note: I believe the technical phrase for the coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #75

It Certainly Is A Tactic They Have Been Using Or So It Seems But ---- TheMastersNemesis Jan 2013 #77

Little personal story: I used to stand by myself with a big banner that coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #78

Not only did Obama win by a comfortable margin despite all the scams to .... Botany Jan 2013 #3

What are the remedies and who is working on this? The Democratic Party? rhett o rick Jan 2013 #4

Comes down to State Legislators and State Governors. If Repubs control legislature and gov, emulatorloo Jan 2013 #7

Which Democrats are working on this? Is there a think tank or organization with rhett o rick Jan 2013 #15

I just got an e-mail from DFA Chathamization Jan 2013 #46

Dean was fired? davidpdx Jan 2013 #73

Same difference. He was a bad fit for the DLC. What do you think happened? rhett o rick Jan 2013 #76

He pledged to run one term and did davidpdx Jan 2013 #88

I am inferring that he didnt fit with Pres Obama. If that's not true, please share the truth with rhett o rick Jan 2013 #89

I linked to the thread with the article in my first post davidpdx Jan 2013 #96

Maybe just eliminating the electoral vote system? maddiemom Jan 2013 #19

I believe elimination of the electorial college would require a Constitutional rhett o rick Jan 2013 #31

There's a back way around it... BlueCheese Jan 2013 #50

I haven't heard one peep from the DNC on this. octoberlib Jan 2013 #30

I agree they should have a committee or something working on rhett o rick Jan 2013 #32

A huge engineering project for the GOP mick063 Jan 2013 #5

What a great analogy and post. Thanks for contributing. Your post deserves its own thread! KittyWampus Jan 2013 #10

An intellegent elite will recognize the danger of the dam breaking rhett o rick Jan 2013 #33

If you can't beat 'em texshelters Jan 2013 #6

This is absolutely NOT RIGGING> It's political hardball. And the Republicans excel at it. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #8

Yup, Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #9

I've posted about redistricting over the years, it's the least sexy topic & drops like a stone. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #11

As this current catastrophe proves. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2013 #81

So we need a large number of Dems to move to redistricted areas? think Jan 2013 #54

We just need Democrats to vote in midterm elections in the same number that they vote in totodeinhere Jan 2013 #87

You're right. bookman Jan 2013 #99

It's like any disease or infestation- it grows and gets worse if steps aren't taken to eliminate it NBachers Jan 2013 #12

I couldn't count exactly for sure all those red blocks, but my calculations should that had that cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #13

This is why we should have voted in 2010. Indyfan53 Jan 2013 #14

We DID Vote in 2010. It Was the Swing Voters Who Stayed Home or Voted for Teabaggers AndyTiedye Jan 2013 #34

Lots of democrats stayed home, too. Indyfan53 Jan 2013 #68

A lot of Democrats stayed home in 2010 tabbycat31 Jan 2013 #85

This is disturbing and infuriating. Jeevus Jan 2013 #16

This could fucking happen. Especially in a place like Florida ... Ian_rd Jan 2013 #17

If we sit it out on our ass w/o a fight, count on it! lonestarnot Jan 2013 #18

Is There Any Way to Fight This? AndyTiedye Jan 2013 #35

YUP! This and 99 other ways to steal an election looks like their plan!! hue Jan 2013 #20

This breaks the one person one vote paradigm. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #21

too bad they won't put their work into honestly winning an election samsingh Jan 2013 #22

The Republicans want it to be "One acre, one vote".... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #23

And could the unfairness be any more obvious. How has it come to this? It's bad enough they Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2013 #82

Actually, rural areas used to be solidly Democratic.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #84

American politics is a zero sum game Politicub Jan 2013 #24

Everything they do we can reverse if we get majorities in those states in 2014 okaawhatever Jan 2013 #40

If we're successful in 2014, which is critical Politicub Jan 2013 #41

Does Ian Millhiser point to WHY they gerrymandered these states? Coyotl Jan 2013 #25

Ok. That's nice and frightening. WHAT DO WE DO? Moonwalk Jan 2013 #26

Plug in to organizations Chathamization Jan 2013 #47

All the other dirty tricks they have tried failed... liberal N proud Jan 2013 #27

Can't think of a better reason to do away with Electoral College. Sheepshank Jan 2013 #28

The problem is that the GOP has no intention of doing this in every state. Flipper999 Jan 2013 #29

I would think this would require changes to these state's constitutions. denverbill Jan 2013 #36

They have already gerrymandered the districts in many states including North Carolina. Ford_Prefect Jan 2013 #38

Yeah, that does suck. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #42

Get rid of the electoral college. This crap won't matter judesedit Jan 2013 #39

There Is Already A Rural Bias In The Electoral College DallasNE Jan 2013 #43

Where's the Wallflower Democrats? blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #44

I saw this on the Rachel Maddow show Nika Jan 2013 #45

I'm not sure this upsets me that much. Blanks Jan 2013 #48

This is actually not that unprecedented. It's been that way in Nebraska and Maine for a while. BlueCheese Jan 2013 #49

Nebraska and Maine tend to balance each other out 0rganism Jan 2013 #51

I think public outrage over this will cause it to stop. BlueCheese Jan 2013 #52

I would be surprised if Repubs would care. They don't care. They are doing everything possible glinda Jan 2013 #58

looks like enough red dots there to make Romney president rurallib Jan 2013 #53

are enough of these state legislatures/governors up for reelection in 14 to overturn any of this yodermon Jan 2013 #55

If we need any more of a reminder of gerrymandering xxxsdesdexxx Jan 2013 #56

that map certainly gives a real perspective hopemountain Jan 2013 #59

It's a slow jam coup de etat funded by the underthematrix Jan 2013 #57

It is sad to see my home state,... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #60

The only way to fix this for good. aandegoons Jan 2013 #61

Not exactly nobody_special Jan 2013 #90

Are we ready for President Wingnut? peace frog Jan 2013 #62

Before bashing the Dems, let's allow the issue to actually sprout first. This is just beginning to RBInMaine Jan 2013 #91

"Before bashing Dems" ??... you're seeing things not there, RB peace frog Jan 2013 #95

Rachel Maddow has been reporting on this for months, and the Democratic party ought to be ahead of Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2013 #100

Can state democrats filibuster these bills? RedSpartan Jan 2013 #63

It's time to get rid . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #64

This could backfire on them. Grantuspeace Jan 2013 #66

Nope peace frog Jan 2013 #67

scary stuff - what would the response be if the President consistently lost the popular vote samsingh Jan 2013 #69

Priority #1 olsondr Jan 2013 #70

Republicans: your touchdowns are only worth 4 points and our field goals are worth 7 underpants Jan 2013 #71

Their next step will be to publicly disavow it. Bozvotros Jan 2013 #72

How about progressives introducing a "do it the good old way" bill. VPStoltz Jan 2013 #74

that's how they roll.... spanone Jan 2013 #79

Hmmm, land mass voting huh. Whoever owns the most wins. Like monopoly cags Jan 2013 #83

Not Land nobody_special Jan 2013 #93

This is going to be tough to stop because it is technically legal. totodeinhere Jan 2013 #86

It won't be hard to stop because the public will pound the living shit out it, and the TeaPukes will RBInMaine Jan 2013 #92

Let's call them out as to what they're doing... Marginalizing the black vote. Again. reformist2 Jan 2013 #94

Howard Dean would be the perfect zeeland Mar 2013 #101