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2. Not cool. It's one thing if they're covering something like "Paradise Lost", but this just sounds

Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:07 PM

Nov 2013

like modern-day pop culture with a veneer of Christianity.

"Christian Values" is a red flag for me, and I am a Christian. The reality is that the things Christians should value like care for others are in no way uniquely Christian and I find it offensive to implicitly assume they are.

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An odd and controversial book that our daughter has to read for 11th grade English... [View all] madinmaryland Nov 2013 OP

That shouldn't really be allowed el_bryanto Nov 2013 #1

Better yet, there should be a World Religion requirement in HS, to discuss at a minimum the major madinmaryland Nov 2013 #3

I took World Religions as an elective and enjoyed it very much Hekate Nov 2013 #10

I also took it in College and it was very interesting. nt madinmaryland Nov 2013 #22

When I finally returned to grad school in midlife Hekate Nov 2013 #70

Not cool. It's one thing if they're covering something like "Paradise Lost", but this just sounds winter is coming Nov 2013 #2

They had to read the Crucible which discussed the religious attitudes madinmaryland Nov 2013 #6

That makes sense. This latest crap doesn't. n/t winter is coming Nov 2013 #7

We had a great Bible Lit class in my HS dballance Nov 2013 #4

That sounds good, because it is actually incredibly influential and oft-quoted Hekate Nov 2013 #12

That is how we got it when I was in tenth grade... WCGreen Nov 2013 #27

Squawk LOUDLY--and call the ACLU! (I sure would!) nt tblue37 Nov 2013 #5

Fight faith with faith if your daughter is so inclined. Are_grits_groceries Nov 2013 #8

When I took English Lit in high school xmas74 Nov 2013 #9

As I commented upthread, I would have loved to taken a World Religion course in HS, madinmaryland Nov 2013 #18

We had a drive-by of world religions in world history. xmas74 Nov 2013 #21

What's amazing to me is that my daughter took a World Religion class in her high school. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #64

I actually took the course in College. It was at a protestant supported university... madinmaryland Nov 2013 #67

My 11th grade grandson reading "The Great Gatsby" now. northoftheborder Nov 2013 #11

all the great literature they could be reading ... surrealAmerican Nov 2013 #13

yep d_r Nov 2013 #43

You are so right exboyfil Nov 2013 #73

What type of English class is this? Neurotica Nov 2013 #14

It is not an AP class. madinmaryland Nov 2013 #15

You have to decide whether or not you want to rock the boat Neurotica Nov 2013 #48

Is this a self-help book? gollygee Nov 2013 #16

Whatever happened to The Red Badge of Courage and BainsBane Nov 2013 #17

TKAM is often earlier in the curriculum. Igel Nov 2013 #26

I read both in middle school. Chan790 Nov 2013 #29

My son read "...Mockingbird" last year (9th grade). This year, it's "Of Mice and Men" in 10th Gr. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #66

I'm sorry, Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #79

Yeah, I found it pretty boring too BainsBane Nov 2013 #80

This smells of Common Core cali Nov 2013 #19

What is common core? madinmaryland Nov 2013 #23

Newest thing MissB Nov 2013 #33

It's the latest educational gravy train roody Nov 2013 #63

That was my first thought too. MissB Nov 2013 #28

I was going to say the absolute opposite: frazzled Nov 2013 #51

We learned the St. Martins Handbook for punctuation and citation Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #69

I don't think common core requires roody Nov 2013 #61

I usually teach excerpts from Matthew and Genesis or Exodus Nevernose Nov 2013 #20

"If the students were able to clearly tell the teacher's own views..." Chan790 Nov 2013 #46

It could have been worse. rug Nov 2013 #24

Raise holy hell "pun intended" MattBaggins Nov 2013 #25

Don't have enough info. Igel Nov 2013 #30

As an English teacher, I have a few questions. knitter4democracy Nov 2013 #31

Hi knitter. To answer your questions, as best as I can... madinmaryland Nov 2013 #34

Yeah, it's time to suit up. knitter4democracy Nov 2013 #82

Is she in public school or charter school or other private school? Just curious. nt valerief Nov 2013 #32

Public school in Ohio madinmaryland Nov 2013 #35

Wow. That's terrible. Charter schools are terrible anyway, so I thought it might be that. valerief Nov 2013 #37

What is really interesting, as an aside, is that the band did a video remembrance of JFK at madinmaryland Nov 2013 #41

Probably because FOX News has told them he was really a Republican. nt ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #53

My daughter is an English teacher in a charter school RebelOne Nov 2013 #62

I would talk to the principal and if you don't get satisfaction, the school board. yurbud Nov 2013 #38

That will be on our to-do list, assuming we get approval from our daughter. madinmaryland Nov 2013 #45

Pilgrim's Progress, or even The Screwtape Letters are works I can see being read in a lit class, but LanternWaste Nov 2013 #36

you read my mind yurbud Nov 2013 #39

I have no idea why the book was assigned. madinmaryland Nov 2013 #44

Something does not compute hardcover Nov 2013 #49

Sold by: HarperCollins Christian Publishing TeamPooka Nov 2013 #40

Thanks... madinmaryland Nov 2013 #42

hmm? interesting! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #47

I suspect the book is The Traveler's Gift ... DreamGypsy Nov 2013 #50

Yes it is. I edited my OP a few minutes ago. madinmaryland Nov 2013 #52

My 11th grade class analyzed "A Catcher in the Rye". nt bluestate10 Nov 2013 #54

I think we had to read that in 10th grade (late 1970's). nt madinmaryland Nov 2013 #55

I would investigate who determines the books used for teaching & whether that is a county-wide okaawhatever Nov 2013 #56

I went to Catholic school and we never read any Cleita Nov 2013 #57

That seems to be the universal Catholic School experience etherealtruth Nov 2013 #59

We had the religion class, which was also our home room hour. Cleita Nov 2013 #68

The nice thing about religion class is that it can be seriously helpful in English class OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #85

Contact the ACLU maybe? nt Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #58

Wow. That book should not have passed dept approval, seriously. Not to mention it sounds PUERILE. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #60

Has anyone who is up in arms Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #65

True, but it definitely is a bit fishy. knitter4democracy Nov 2013 #83

Looked it up on Amazon- great reviews and doesn't seem overly religious. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #71

my 11th grade teacher read us the rare, hard to find vonnegut story "the big space fuck" dionysus Nov 2013 #72

That's in "Welcome to the Monkey House", is it not? OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #86

no idea frankly it seemed rare to me ;) dionysus Nov 2013 #87

I'm wrong - it's in "Palm Sunday" OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #88

Why not write a letter of complaint to the principal, school board and PTSA.The National Council of ancianita Nov 2013 #74

Really? Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #75

This is English, not science. But technically, yes; that's what other states' curriculum fights are ancianita Nov 2013 #76

You seriously misunderstand the law. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #77

You seriously misunderstand me.I'm NOT saying that states canNOT tell teachers WHAT to teach. ancianita Nov 2013 #78

I've read it a number of times Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #81

Write the teacher, and cc: the Principal and say: OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #84

Is it the only Christian leaning book in the syllabus? Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #89