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Warren DeMontague

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16. It was worse. Absolutely, without question, worse.

Reply to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 21, 2013, 04:44 AM

Nov 2013

But then I'm one of those most-hated critters, an unrepentant optimist.

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Over all - was life better 50 years go today - or was it worse? [View all] Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 OP

Not voting-the answer is too complex for a poll TexasProgresive Nov 2013 #1

Correct! Everything is relative. Depends on who you are, where you were, what race, what gender et kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #35

1963 still had both the New Deal and social regimentation in place Warpy Nov 2013 #2

Socially, we have progressed. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #3

Thanks, you've summed up my thoughts quite accurately. Scuba Nov 2013 #17

After TMI, Chernobyl, and Fukushima.... HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #25

Sadly, I can't disagree. Scuba Nov 2013 #26

K was 19 in 1963. enough Nov 2013 #4

Although we don't have all the gadgets and electronic devices we do today, Cleita Nov 2013 #5

People lacked a lot of civil rights in 1963 gollygee Nov 2013 #6

Definitely, many often now seem to have the attitude you can't fight the system. Also, for example, RKP5637 Nov 2013 #27

It's pretty obvious how minorities or gays would vote in this poll. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #7

Women too gollygee Nov 2013 #8

Quite possibly the first time I've agreed with you. On anything. Number23 Nov 2013 #66

Better for whom and how? Worse for whom and how? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #9

50 yrs ago my 6 yr old brother almost died KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #10

I remember in about 65 my local small town newspaper carrying a headline news story that the local Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #11

technology KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #59

frankly it does both. Working in the healthcare field - there is no doubt whatsoever that the Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #62

It was worse LostOne4Ever Nov 2013 #12

Pre-Roe vs. Wade must have sucked as well Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #13

I wish more young women realized this OldHippieChick Nov 2013 #44

We've gone forward socially but dropped back economically. Kablooie Nov 2013 #14

I think the economics are pretty social, too FiveGoodMen Nov 2013 #56

There was a whole lot of racial problems that have been mainstreamed and then WCGreen Nov 2013 #15

well I can't disagree with that. Even many of the social programs that lift people out of poverty Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #34

My sister owes close to 100k in student loans. WCGreen Nov 2013 #64

It was worse. Absolutely, without question, worse. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #16

definitely things are better now treestar Nov 2013 #18

the first woman became a Senator in 1922 hfojvt Nov 2013 #39

here is one thing we had back then - that we don't have today Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #19

and you could order all kinds of exciting stuff from comic book ads - Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #20

Are you a minority, a woman, and/or LGBTQ? Recursion Nov 2013 #21

The level of hate is lower, but the level of crazy is higher. reformist2 Nov 2013 #22

As one of my friends was saying, it's easier for the crazies to get the microphone and RKP5637 Nov 2013 #28

Straight white male says things were worse then Jim Lane Nov 2013 #23

The Golden Age Fallacy renie408 Nov 2013 #24

Definitely! I didn't think the world was that better then ... yep, it's not perfect now, but RKP5637 Nov 2013 #30

Archie Bunker - hell... dchill Nov 2013 #32

What America forgets to say when it boasts to other countries about how great RKP5637 Nov 2013 #38

I posted this on another thread this past weekend JustAnotherGen Nov 2013 #29

did Coretta Scott King really think she was living in a hell hole? hfojvt Nov 2013 #46

And my dad was born JustAnotherGen Nov 2013 #48

what anger? hfojvt Nov 2013 #49

It just kind of came across JustAnotherGen Nov 2013 #51

Perfect post, JAG. And it ties in perfectly with what we've been discussing in the AA forum, huh? Number23 Nov 2013 #63

The good old days don't... dchill Nov 2013 #31

Maybe on a national level, they don't Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #60

Hugely worse for women! Freddie Nov 2013 #33

This is a very tough question. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #36

It was the dark ages so far as my own medical care has gone. hunter Nov 2013 #37

No one has mentioned something that has greatly improved many people's lives since 1963... raccoon Nov 2013 #40

and remote controls for the television Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #41

That's probably why there was less obesity back then. nt raccoon Nov 2013 #45

I was two-years-old Blue_Roses Nov 2013 #42

It all depends on your race and economic status and your general health CK_John Nov 2013 #43

Both better and worse of course, but from a historical perspective the last half Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #47

It's been kind of a bell curve. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #50

Much depended on your race and your sex and sexual upaloopa Nov 2013 #52

Biggest change for the worse is the loss of economic power LittleBlue Nov 2013 #53

Collapse of the middle class zipplewrath Nov 2013 #54

I graduated from an excellent university with zero student loans. hunter Nov 2013 #58

Well, up to and including 11/21/63, it was good. Then it went all to Hell, and stayed. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #55

Better for some, worse for some Thirties Child Nov 2013 #57

worse. jim crow laws Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #61

So much was not talked about u4ic Nov 2013 #65

"The 'societal ills' that people bemoan about now were still there, just swept under the carpet raccoon Nov 2013 #67

Yep u4ic Nov 2013 #68

another kick Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #69

What were they saying on the internet about this topic in 1963? Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #70