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ProfessorGAC

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69. Sorry. I Think You're Overstating This A Bit

Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:44 AM

Jun 2014

Most of what you say makes perfect sense, but i don't think it's as substantive as you make it out to be.

The differences are far more subtle and i don't honestly believe the changes caused by the shift of mods to the jury system are that profound. You say i can't seriously argue is hasn't changed DU. But, you're slanting it negatively.

Perhaps some would agree the change is profound but prefer it this way. Hence they would be agreeing with your statement but disagreeing with the sentiment. Count me on one of those.

I read folks here in criticizing the jury system talking about cliques. They clearly haven't been here long enough. The old mod system was a enriched feeding ground for cliques. I see that a bit(!) better now.

There are changes, to be sure. I like your stagnant water analogy. Quite apt. But, i think the differences are small and more importantly, minor.
GAC

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DU has not "changed" [View all] Soylent Brice Jun 2014 OP

I was actually eating popcorn while reading that stuff today lunasun Jun 2014 #1

yay!!!! Soylent Brice Jun 2014 #3

So there. countryjake Jun 2014 #2

No one ever leaves here n/t leftstreet Jun 2014 #4

lmao... seabeyond Jun 2014 #6

Oh shit you posted the vid.. LMAO!!! Soylent Brice Jun 2014 #9

and still those voices are calling from far.... away. such a lovely place. seabeyond Jun 2014 #10

I can't believe there's a video - TBF Jun 2014 #43

ikr Soylent Brice Jun 2014 #8

I always thought of it more like this... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #19

LOL nt SunSeeker Jun 2014 #27

"Just when you think you are out! They suck you back in!" lol nt Javaman Jun 2014 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Jun 2014 #5

It is and always as been the "Democratic" Underground. Lint Head Jun 2014 #7

Well said n/t Still Sensible Jun 2014 #11

Thanks for your post. littlemissmartypants Jun 2014 #12

I like it. immoderate Jun 2014 #13

it HAS changed Skittles Jun 2014 #14

Agreed. cui bono Jun 2014 #22

Yes, well, you and I have a broader and longer-lasting involvement with the site Demeter Jun 2014 #29

Am I gettin' an ass kickin'? Soylent Brice Jun 2014 #38

BACK AT YA BABE Skittles Jun 2014 #92

You mean BS like assuming that the BOG and HOF are behind every single issue here? FSogol Jun 2014 #39

I am not ASSUMING anything Skittles Jun 2014 #91

That is absolute nonsense. Rense.com and Neo-Nazi sites like American Free Press and geek tragedy Jun 2014 #100

do you see me supporting that stuff? Skittles Jun 2014 #101

Really, you think using insulting hyperbole like "worship" geek tragedy Jun 2014 #104

what exactly do you call supporting someone NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO Skittles Jun 2014 #105

"loyalists" or even "apologists" geek tragedy Jun 2014 #108

Indeed In_The_Wind Jun 2014 #44

The good old days when Holocaust denial sites were quoted as reliable sources geek tragedy Jun 2014 #45

they were very much exceptions Skittles Jun 2014 #89

No, it was common in multiple forums, especially I/P, the 9/11 Dungeon geek tragedy Jun 2014 #98

you must go looking for them Skittles Jun 2014 #99

no, they wouldn't deny the holocaust, just pimp conspiracy theories geek tragedy Jun 2014 #102

so we are agreed that we detest people who pimp garbage Skittles Jun 2014 #103

Everyone here pimps bullshit and trash to a certain extent geek tragedy Jun 2014 #106

+100 Javaman Jun 2014 #71

we know who they are Skittles Jun 2014 #94

Strange that supporting Democrats on a site ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #110

Odd promised action indeed lunasun Jun 2014 #128

+1 Marr Jun 2014 #72

Agreed. It doesn't feel the same, and hasn't for quit a while. GreenPartyVoter Jun 2014 #129

Hey Soylent.. YouBetterBelieveIt.. thanks for your take on good ol DU.. Cha Jun 2014 #15

Hmmmm Hekate Jun 2014 #23

I hear ya, Cha Jun 2014 #31

DU is a part of my life now! I love it, love it, love it! C Moon Jun 2014 #16

welcome. and enjoy. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #18

I think that it has changed in one way, at least The Straight Story Jun 2014 #17

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #112

It has changed. snot Jun 2014 #20

I beg to differ ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #21

Great comment... defacto7 Jun 2014 #24

Many of us have moved on. NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #30

All good points. Personally, for me it's been the change from a village to a major city Hekate Jun 2014 #28

Actually ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #32

Well, there are likely a certain percentage of socks, lurkers, and zombies... Hekate Jun 2014 #33

Hey Nance Number23 Jun 2014 #34

Oh, yes, my friend ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #36

Yep, to the two of you! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #115

agree with this statement..... a kennedy Jun 2014 #47

+1 nt geek tragedy Jun 2014 #51

SWEETY SWEETY PIE PIE!!!! A HERETIC I AM Jun 2014 #64

Sorry. I Think You're Overstating This A Bit ProfessorGAC Jun 2014 #69

I don't think it's a "minor" change ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #117

And I Do Think It's Minor ProfessorGAC Jun 2014 #125

I was with you until paragraph 4 hfojvt Jun 2014 #86

I wasn't here NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #107

This. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #111

I don't remember any rule change hfojvt Jun 2014 #116

I don't remember the exact timing ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #120

IOWs ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #119

usually we fight with each other too much hfojvt Jun 2014 #124

+++++++1! nt MADem Jun 2014 #135

Of course it has changed. DU used to get outraged at govt transgressions cui bono Jun 2014 #25

CORRECT Skittles Jun 2014 #37

Bingo! truebrit71 Jun 2014 #41

Amazing lack of self-awareness. You explicitly claim Obama is as bad or worse than Bush, then wonder geek tragedy Jun 2014 #46

Absolutely right. nt Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #61

You are agreeing with a flat out lie. cui bono Jun 2014 #79

Yep redqueen Jun 2014 #68

You are agreeing with a flat out lie. cui bono Jun 2014 #80

Where did I support Ron Paul's call for impeachment? Prove it or apologize. cui bono Jun 2014 #77

In response to Ron Paul saying Obama/could be impeached: geek tragedy Jun 2014 #95

Where did I support impeachment exactly? n/t cui bono Jun 2014 #96

when someone posts a thread about impeachment geek tragedy Jun 2014 #109

I did not support impeachment. I make no bones that I disagree with a lot of what Obama does. cui bono Jun 2014 #114

And you go Godwin as a parting shot. Nice. nt geek tragedy Jun 2014 #121

Again, mischaracterizing, but I will edit that out because I can see how it could be taken. n/t cui bono Jun 2014 #126

Making a baseless accusation like that refusing to back it up should result in a ban. /nt Marr Jun 2014 #84

Can you please post a link to where Cui Bono agreed that Obama should be impeached? SomethingFishy Jun 2014 #118

+100 nt Javaman Jun 2014 #73

I have to agree with you here, and it's one of the things I dislike the most about the "new" DU. Raksha Jun 2014 #87

It's interesting that defacto7 Jun 2014 #26

what amazes me is when I see how personally some people take criticism online... CTyankee Jun 2014 #49

K and effin R. JohnnyRingo Jun 2014 #35

#takebackoursite Blue_Adept Jun 2014 #40

+1 Scuba Jun 2014 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jun 2014 #48

Yep. el_bryanto Jun 2014 #50

Perception is our reality IronLionZion Jun 2014 #52

It changed. Meta is now in GD. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #53

Yep, might as well not even have hosts...seems like they don't have much of a job. Rex Jun 2014 #54

Not just meta--GD is also littered with OT "vanity" posts better suited for a personal blog. Romulox Jun 2014 #59

Righteous rant! Been a long time since I've seen one of those. Rex Jun 2014 #55

One way it quickly changed from the beginning... wyldwolf Jun 2014 #56

I think it is more combative than it used to be JNelson6563 Jun 2014 #57

Pfff. What utter nonsense. Of course it has. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #58

This site is *CONSIDERABLY* more Rightwing than before. Vigorous defense of spying, drone killing, Romulox Jun 2014 #60

I disagree. LWolf Jun 2014 #62

I think it has changed in two obvious ways Samantha Jun 2014 #63

Oh it's changed considerably Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #65

You nailed it! At first I was neutral on the jury system, Raksha Jun 2014 #88

OMC OMG.... mike_c Jun 2014 #66

THANK GAWD IT PASSED!!!! cui bono Jun 2014 #83

Also, your memory is selective. OMC got TONS of support here for his "Thank GAWD it passed!" schtick Romulox Jun 2014 #67

So was Better Believe It. Yet people still mimic his daily "crap on the Democratic party" postings. FSogol Jun 2014 #97

I disagree. The party establishment has a more organized presence here now. Marr Jun 2014 #74

i disagree. the party is in power now, and what we see is a desire not to criticize our own. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #76

Yes, I'm sure some are simply sincere, 'my-party-right-or-wrong' types. Marr Jun 2014 #81

Which is bad for democracy. Party over country is no way to get good policy enacted. cui bono Jun 2014 #82

i didn't say it was a good thing, just that i dont see this as an organized movement La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #113

we know who they are Skittles Jun 2014 #90

Are you, now; or have you ever been ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #123

Just a question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #122

No, and frankly, I'm amazed that you can ask that question. Marr Jun 2014 #132

yup. plenty of assholes and plenty of nice people La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #75

I've been here (off and on) since 2002 and you are spot on. Coventina Jun 2014 #78

It has changed. Your OP is a good example of what it has become upaloopa Jun 2014 #85

Absolutely correct. nt Bonobo Jun 2014 #134

disagree G_j Jun 2014 #93

Thank you. H2O Man Jun 2014 #127

The more things change.... Armstead Jun 2014 #130

Agreed k/r... bonzotex Jun 2014 #131

It changed. Now deal with it. nt Bonobo Jun 2014 #133