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8. In the same way there would have been a mushroom cloud over NYC had we not invaded Iraq.

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Do you agree with the Obama administration that ISIS is an "imminent threat"? [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 OP

Probably not; but how could I know? n/t Smarmie Doofus Aug 2014 #1

Good question..I can't believe the 'ho hum" attitude of many here whathehell Aug 2014 #45

But Alex Jones says it was a conspiracy or something FrodosPet Aug 2014 #121

Yeah, whatever.. whathehell Aug 2014 #125

No. And we still won't be invading Iraq again. JoePhilly Aug 2014 #2

No, although the administration might have info they're not sharing Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #3

I have learned that the United States Government is not to be trusted in matters of military force. Maedhros Aug 2014 #55

Yes, the last thing in the world Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #4

No reply, I don't have the data set he and his team has. nt NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #5

I agree, which is why I voted "pass." Adsos Letter Aug 2014 #153

They're already recruiting citizens from many other countries lunatica Aug 2014 #6

I know, and the prospect scares me greatly, especially whathehell Aug 2014 #30

The authorities have caught quite a few who were on their way there, but lunatica Aug 2014 #46

That's good to hear.. whathehell Aug 2014 #48

Me too. Agschmid Aug 2014 #111

Glad to see that I'm not the only one, at least.. whathehell Aug 2014 #114

UK. Agschmid Aug 2014 #123

For some reason, whathehell Aug 2014 #126

Imminent threat to...? Iggo Aug 2014 #7

To Iraq's current government, certainly. Orsino Aug 2014 #10

Oil profits. TBF Aug 2014 #147

In the same way there would have been a mushroom cloud over NYC had we not invaded Iraq. chrisa Aug 2014 #8

I think not, since, apart from murdering other muslims, men, women & children whathehell Aug 2014 #32

All of this was done in Iraq. It's not hard to just kidnap a journalist. chrisa Aug 2014 #53

Yes, but if you haven't heard, lots of them are coming back to Europe whathehell Aug 2014 #56

The same can be said about Al Qaeda, though. chrisa Aug 2014 #61

True, but whathehell Aug 2014 #63

True. 9/11 wasn't the first attack, though. The US has been dealing with terrorism for a while. chrisa Aug 2014 #72

It was the first major attack. whathehell Aug 2014 #99

The 1993 WTC attack actually had the same intent as the 2001 one. It's only that the 2001 one worked chrisa Aug 2014 #135

"worked" is the operative word there. whathehell Aug 2014 #136

Dubious at best, don't see how. TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #9

Yes, because, ooga booga, another 10000 member gang has the US looking foolish. GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #11

Where have YOU been?..They just beheaded an American Journalist whathehell Aug 2014 #34

How is that an imminent threat to the U.S.? former9thward Aug 2014 #64

Well, for one thing, whathehell Aug 2014 #68

The 9/11 crew were Saudis and operated out of Germany. former9thward Aug 2014 #71

No shit, sherlock...I guess you think bin Laden was an innocent bystander, too. whathehell Aug 2014 #118

Not worth it, man. They just don't get it. Drunken Irishman Aug 2014 #130

Yes, and these are the same people who, rightfully, blamed Dubya whathehell Aug 2014 #140

Not to US borders. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #12

+1 As usual, to find the threat, just follow the money. nt GliderGuider Aug 2014 #28

The proper question to ask is "to whom?" hifiguy Aug 2014 #13

I don't have enough information to form a judgment. MineralMan Aug 2014 #14

Until I have enough information to say Yes then I must say No. But, your point is well taken. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #16

"Until I have enough information to say Yes then I must say No." Iggo Aug 2014 #18

It's pretty apparent to me that many are threatened MineralMan Aug 2014 #19

all of that, yes. But that is not the question and besides the question is not fully formed. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #20

Given the general wording of the question, I found that I could MineralMan Aug 2014 #22

It is, indeed, a very generalized question and if one thinks: Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #33

My own personal opinion is that the US does not belong MineralMan Aug 2014 #40

IMO, abstain and NO are both correct in this scenario. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #44

+1 VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #26

Unless we think EVERY news story is a wholly made-up crock'o'shiite, MH1 Aug 2014 #146

Same here. Plus I haven't followed the situation closely. ecstatic Aug 2014 #154

Al Qaeda was played out, not scary or believable enough anymore to get us into Syria whatchamacallit Aug 2014 #15

Yes. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #17

+1000. I voted Yes, too. BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #41

Mhm, and I admire the advocates for peace, but they tend to be incapable of nuance. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #91

I'm 100% for peace, too, but I don't take it to the extreme. BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #95

+a bajillion qazplm Aug 2014 #110

They are an imminent threat to the American press who travel to the countries Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #21

I'm going to go out on a limb here... clarice Aug 2014 #23

Yeah, that is pretty far out on the "excluded middle" limb...[n/t] Maedhros Aug 2014 #57

Please explain. nt clarice Aug 2014 #75

You're either with Obama, or your with the "terrorists." Maedhros Aug 2014 #76

Cool...but I'm curious...what would YOU do if you were Prez? nt clarice Aug 2014 #80

The Prez was cool with Israeli commandoes killing a U.S. citizen aboard the Krav Mara. Maedhros Aug 2014 #87

You know....I've always wondered.... clarice Aug 2014 #89

+1 conservaphobe Aug 2014 #92

Thank you....once again, I'm in the unpopular minority.nt clarice Aug 2014 #96

I generally see ISIS as the equivalent of the Nazi's in 1938. Xithras Aug 2014 #24

Me too..That's exactly the analogy i used last night with someone! whathehell Aug 2014 #103

The Nazis had an air force and a navy. Does ISIS? n/t eridani Aug 2014 #128

The Nazis were actually a military threat in 1938 Hippo_Tron Aug 2014 #141

Maybe not an imminent threat as of today Lurks Often Aug 2014 #25

They are a threat betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #27

To the US? No. To Iraq, Syria and others in the region? Yes. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2014 #29

They are indeed an imminent threat... GliderGuider Aug 2014 #31

Yes, and to certain unlucky journalists from America and Europe. whathehell Aug 2014 #69

This may not go over too well, but... GliderGuider Aug 2014 #85

Is that the way you felt about Daniel Pearl?..Same lack of feeling for our troops? whathehell Aug 2014 #100

Different people see the world in different ways. GliderGuider Aug 2014 #104

Yes, you seem to see it like a cold, selfish libertarian.. whathehell Aug 2014 #116

I come from three generations of Quakers and Unitarians GliderGuider Aug 2014 #119

Yes, and you and the other generations of Quakers got the whathehell Aug 2014 #120

That's totally whack Depaysement Aug 2014 #132

I salute those quakers.. whathehell Aug 2014 #139

Maybe this will clarify my feelings GliderGuider Aug 2014 #143

So your lack of sympathy extends to anyone who "chooses" to put whathehell Aug 2014 #144

What would you like your anger towards me to accomplish? GliderGuider Aug 2014 #145

Lol.. whathehell Aug 2014 #148

Cool! Depaysement Aug 2014 #131

Thanks! I was very fortunate. GliderGuider Aug 2014 #137

Yep, exactly Hippo_Tron Aug 2014 #142

No. Same old bullshit PeteSelman Aug 2014 #35

Yeah sure, whathehell Aug 2014 #39

In what way does that make them an "imminent threat" to us? PeteSelman Aug 2014 #47

Why bother asking questions you only need your own answer for? whathehell Aug 2014 #51

And you marched right behind the Chimp too I suppose. PeteSelman Aug 2014 #86

Excuse me, are you referring to Barack Obama "the chimp"? whathehell Aug 2014 #98

:sigh: No. PeteSelman Aug 2014 #109

Glad to hear it, 'cause that guy's been out of office for awhile whathehell Aug 2014 #115

Nevermind. PeteSelman Aug 2014 #122

I don't. whathehell Aug 2014 #124

So explain why we didn't bomb Pakistan when Daniel Pearl was beheaded n/t eridani Aug 2014 #129

A. I never suggested we bomb anywhere.. whathehell Aug 2014 #134

There is potential. jambo101 Aug 2014 #36

Yes! We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud! Maedhros Aug 2014 #59

No, it is hyperbole. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #37

To the United States? No. Marr Aug 2014 #38

Yes, ISIS is an imminent threat but to whom? Not to the US mainland...nt kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #42

Not to our country, but to the ME...YES absolutely! nt Rex Aug 2014 #43

Not to our country Marrah_G Aug 2014 #49

To the territory of the US? Hell no. hifiguy Aug 2014 #50

conditional agreement -- they are clearly an imminent threat to Americans abroad 0rganism Aug 2014 #52

They are an imminent threat to the Iraqis and Syrians brentspeak Aug 2014 #54

The the countries in danger will be taking the lead? TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #117

Nope Sparhawk60 Aug 2014 #58

No threat at all. Hugabear Aug 2014 #60

As many pointed out before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, what's now playing out with ISIL Maedhros Aug 2014 #62

Neocon Redux. I've seen this movie before. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #65

They are an imminent threat ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #66

How could I know? The MSM is owned by the 1%, and tells me whatever the 1% tells them to. Zorra Aug 2014 #67

Due to going offline and chucking out the TV, I've been out of the news loop for quite a while... Turborama Aug 2014 #70

I didn't buy this song and. dance when the neocons pushed it... 99Forever Aug 2014 #73

Any opinion I might have would be clouded... kentuck Aug 2014 #74

OK, but I don't think Obama is dumb, naive or deluded enough Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #78

I have my doubts that any President... kentuck Aug 2014 #90

I actually think that Obama is smart, deliberate, Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #77

I don't think I'm in a position to have a reasonable opinion. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #79

This is a topic where the government has zero credibility. arcane1 Aug 2014 #81

No one has given me reason to believe so. nt. NCTraveler Aug 2014 #82

Unmitigated bullshit. And part of a pattern. woo me with science Aug 2014 #83

Erect Bogeyman, wave flag, declare we need protection, give more money to the MIC. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #84

Till they build a Navy I am sure we are fine. n/t dilby Aug 2014 #88

Without defining "imminent threat" it's impossible to answer flamingdem Aug 2014 #93

Voted Yes, But(!) ProfessorGAC Aug 2014 #94

Yes Harmony Blue Aug 2014 #97

I still can't find where they said "imminent threat" KamaAina Aug 2014 #101

I don't believe he is lying about this. egduj Aug 2014 #102

They've cried "wolf" too often Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2014 #105

A really vague question. JEB Aug 2014 #106

If they are such a threat, JEB Aug 2014 #107

Imminent threat to US interests in Iraq abelenkpe Aug 2014 #108

+1000000 J_J_ Aug 2014 #112

Unfortunately, yes. NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #113

Threat? Yes. Imminent? No. eridani Aug 2014 #127

Going to vote no. Jappleseed Aug 2014 #133

To the US, I don't know. To people in the Middle East, yes, obviously. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #138

Yes, I do. Does anyone think they are not in it for the long-haul? That they WON'T behead the other WinkyDink Aug 2014 #149

I think ISIS bears watching. HereSince1628 Aug 2014 #150

Yes,, as is any roving gang be backed by who knows who . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2014 #151

neither DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #152

Not to the US mainland Kalidurga Aug 2014 #155