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281. I don't think working hard to keep your head above water is "doing okay."

Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:07 AM

Jun 2015

It's surviving, maybe, & TPTB have successfully convinced most of society that that's doing okay, but I disagree.

Doing okay is being able to save money every paycheck, for emergencies, your child's education & retirement. It's carrying a reasonable debt load & not having to depend on credit for daily/regular expenses like groceries or insurance. It's having enough money in the bank to get you through 3 months without pay. Doing okay is not worrying that an appendectomy will wipe out your $50 saving account & leave you severely in debt, even though you have insurance & pay your premiums on time.

A few years back there was a survey that stated half of Americans couldn't come up with $2K in 30 days without selling something, asking someone for a loan or pulling it off a credit card. Most of us are one disaster from financial ruin. The playing field is skewed more every day & the social safety net is shredded.

The system isn't broken. The system is fixed.

Do I think Bernie Sanders can fix it? No. Even with a democratic Congress I don't think he could fix it. Not only are there too many blue dogs, it's a behemoth. The system. It's corrupt through & through. But I do think Bernie can generate a national debate, get people talking & thinking about why it is that things are generally not better economically, no matter which party is in office. That's why he's so focused on the economic issues & less on the social ones. TPTB use social issues to divide us. Bernie is using economic issues to unite us.

I've said I won't vote for HRC, but if she gets the nom, I suspect I will. I'll fall in line & be a good liberal dem. I'll hold my nose, vote for the Goldman Sachs candidate & I will sit down & shut up. Yes, that's what I'll do. I will not walk my precinct for her. I will not call for her. I will not put an HRC sign in my yard. I will not post about her on FB & tell my friends what a great candidate the dems have. I will never wear a tee shirt with her face & name on it. And I would never, never, ever send her any money. I will vote for her & that is all.

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I've Had Enough... [View all] MineralMan Jun 2015 OP

I call those folks of which you correctly opine as "accidental Republicans". Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #1

Could not rec this enough. taught_me_patience Jun 2015 #2

Same here. calimary Jun 2015 #68

Absolutely. It's going to be very hard for some to MineralMan Jun 2015 #74

Bernie Sanders has already vowed to do this, which I deeply respect and appreciate. calimary Jun 2015 #92

Yeah, NOBODY in the Senate will work HARDER to get Hillary elected than Bernie randys1 Jun 2015 #102

I've had enough of straight people telling me who DURHAM D Jun 2015 #3

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I have too. DemocraticWing Jun 2015 #93

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Maybe that's why you're so fed up? demwing Jun 2015 #223

Dont know about MM but for me that is hard to do, you see I work very hard along with others randys1 Jun 2015 #105

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The op is a Sanders supporter. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #21

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McDonalds. H2O Man Jun 2015 #40

I agree about that. MineralMan Jun 2015 #41

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Thank you. MineralMan Jun 2015 #46

Great OP Gothmog Jun 2015 #45

I really appreciate your reply. MineralMan Jun 2015 #51

I agree-There is a ton of work ahead Gothmog Jun 2015 #83

i only want to address one point of yours questionseverything Jun 2015 #49

Most of the 99% have those things. MineralMan Jun 2015 #58

no offense mm but you do not live in my neighborhood questionseverything Jun 2015 #73

No, I do not. I live in an affordable neighborhood in MineralMan Jun 2015 #75

are you saying my neighborhood does not work hard? questionseverything Jun 2015 #97

That is exactly how I took it. SamKnause Jun 2015 #185

ty for the kind words sam questionseverything Jun 2015 #199

I agree. SamKnause Jun 2015 #200

I don't think working hard to keep your head above water is "doing okay." CrispyQ Jun 2015 #281

Well, I've been working hard to keep my head above water since MineralMan Jun 2015 #283

What a self-absorbed response. CrispyQ Jun 2015 #286

No. It's my personal experience. MineralMan Jun 2015 #287

I've had enough of being sold out by politicians who seek to pad their own pockets peacebird Jun 2015 #50

I've had enough of politicians who make promises to the Working Class, bvar22 Jun 2015 #177

I for one don't want to kill capitalism, neither does Sanders. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #54

Of course Sanders doesn't want that. MineralMan Jun 2015 #64

Okay, I misunderstood. Sorry SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #66

Not in any way. Senator Sanders has never said any of the MineralMan Jun 2015 #71

I know, but socialist is getting all kinds of play and redefinitions. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #87

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Yeah, me too. MineralMan Jun 2015 #65

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Kickety Rec, MM. Hekate Jun 2015 #78

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I had enough with 8 years of Bush to know. .. LynneSin Jun 2015 #278

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I've had enough also.... daleanime Jun 2015 #284

You've not benefited in any way from this administration? MineralMan Jun 2015 #285

To you really think I'm upset because I haven't been completely satisfied? daleanime Jun 2015 #291

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