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In reply to the discussion: Is it appropriate for progressives to mock Kim Davis's weight and fashion sense? [View all]Rob H.
(5,643 posts)175. "She had those divorces and out of wedlock children before she became a christian"
No, she didn't. Turns out that Davis, in the midst of marrying, cheating, divorcing, getting remarried (once to someone to whom she'd already been married) wasn't some sort of godless, baby-eating heathen. Excerpt follows; full article, "The Federalist: Baptists Aren't Christians," is here.
And here's Mollie Hemingway writing at The Federalist in a piece titled "Kentucky Clerk Didn’t Follow Christianity Before Converting To It":Now, if you disagree with journalists on the marriage topic, you should be prepared for them to go after you. They are still taking their time investigating almost any angle associated with Planned Parenthood’s harvesting of organs from aborted children, mind you, but they wasted no time doing a deep dive into Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis’ past. Perhaps the most interesting thing about her past, given that she’s waging a (losing) religious liberty battle, is that she is apparently a recent convert to Christianity—her conversion took place “about four years ago,” according to her legal counsel. Keep that in mind. She converted to Christianity about four years ago.
Yes, Davis has been divorced three times and is on her fourth marriage, Hemingway concedes, but not one {of} Davis' divorces "{took} place within the time period she was Christian." It's a miracle: Davis hasn't divorced anyone since becoming a Christian. So it's not fair and totally uncool for people to bring up Davis' own not-the-least-bit-biblical marital history. Davis isn't one of those "screw as I say, not as I screw" conservatives—she's not this guy or this guy or this guy—because she wasn't a Christian back when she was marrying and cheating and divorcing and marrying and divorcing and cheating and marrying and divorcing.
So what was Kim Davis back then? Was she a Zoroastrian? Was she a Rastafarian? Was she a Rosicrucian?
Kim Davis was a fucking Baptist.
Maybe I'm confused, it's possible I missed a memo, and Mollie Hemingway may know something I don't. But I was under the impression that Baptists are Christians.
And what do Baptists believe? They believe that marriage is a sacred union between one man and one woman, that adultery is a sin, that gay people are gross, and that the Bible is the divinely inspired word of God and that it is without error and that we must take it literally....
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Is it appropriate for progressives to mock Kim Davis's weight and fashion sense? [View all]
Nye Bevan
Sep 2015
OP
I disagree...I think mocking her religion is within bounds since she is hiding behind it
davidpdx
Sep 2015
#16
Not really. She had those divorces and out of wedlock children before she became a christian
CBGLuthier
Sep 2015
#19
Please don't make this about Christianity. It's HER personal religious beliefs.
merrily
Sep 2015
#32
And? I know bigoted and good people of all faiths and philosophies. That woman can issue licenses
merrily
Sep 2015
#93
"She had those divorces and out of wedlock children before she became a christian"
Rob H.
Sep 2015
#175
HER "religion" dictates that she discriminate against people. seems mock-worthy.
RedCappedBandit
Sep 2015
#25
Many other Christian denominations (more main stream than hers) DO support marriage equality
mnhtnbb
Sep 2015
#174
I wanted to thank you for your responses in that thread but I did not want to bump that thread any
Tipperary
Sep 2015
#68
I do not care for her positions on this issue and I hope she is thrown out of her elected office,
Tipperary
Sep 2015
#84
which is of course expressly and entirely caused by her religion, which is off limits why?
whatthehey
Sep 2015
#48
Because she has the right under the 1st amendment to believe whatever bullshit she wants
CBGLuthier
Sep 2015
#59
Bull. Shit. This is *exactly* the sort of thing that earns religion legitmate mockery.
Marr
Sep 2015
#66
I agree. I have no problem with her personal beliefs, but when she uses them to hurt others,
ladyVet
Sep 2015
#173
Bullshit. She climbed up on that cross as a justification for her bigotry....
truebrit71
Sep 2015
#89
I reserve the right to mock bigotry where I find it. When it is found in religion I mock.
LiberalAndProud
Sep 2015
#90
Wrong. Her beliefs are fair game, just like Republican beliefs are fair game.
Arugula Latte
Sep 2015
#137
Is it permissible to "mock" those who genuinely believe The Earth is 6,000 years old?
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#155
No, but I'll mock the bajesus outta her hypocritical bullshit behavior. nt.
Juicy_Bellows
Sep 2015
#2
Sorry--I don't agree. There's nothing funnier than Bush in a too-tight, sweat stained shirt.
MADem
Sep 2015
#12
I never gave it a second thought, but bringing up this poll is mocking her.
demosincebirth
Sep 2015
#8
Her weight? No. Her fashion sense? No, but in the grand sceme, so what.
Behind the Aegis
Sep 2015
#11
IYO you are wrong. But I assume makng fun of people in general is OK with you. nt
Logical
Sep 2015
#157
No weight, Yes Mock Fashion, Yes mock her religion because she is the one who brought her religion
YabaDabaNoDinoNo
Sep 2015
#17
there are as many childish assholes on our side as there are on the other side
Spider Jerusalem
Sep 2015
#18
I don't care what she looks like or how she dresses. It's what she does that matters.
RedCappedBandit
Sep 2015
#26
I suppose this OP is aimed at me for daring to suggest she could use some fashion advice
mnhtnbb
Sep 2015
#29
Yes, I hope it is. People like you make DU look bad. And insult others who look like her. nt
Logical
Sep 2015
#158
I am glad to see that. But there was another thread where posters were falling all over themselves
Tipperary
Sep 2015
#53
So should we mock the hijabs worn by Muslim women who oppose marriage equality? (nt)
Nye Bevan
Sep 2015
#41
Of course not--I'm sure there are many better looking people in Ky & in the US
book_worm
Sep 2015
#46
All is fair in love and war and in the war for love it's all double fair. However her actions are so
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#58
Well, both are changeable, unlike sexual orientation and gender identity.
MillennialDem
Sep 2015
#61
I just want to elect Quakers in every GA AL TX KY WV county for clerk who issues gun licenses
randys1
Sep 2015
#77
wait - I thought you were staking out the moral high ground and now you mock my name?
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2015
#138
We must not respond to the Swiftboat attacks, people will realize they are wrong on their own
Democat
Sep 2015
#146
You are precisely right. She belongs to a Pentecostal church that demeans women
mnhtnbb
Sep 2015
#118
I am at a loss as to why people are being jumped on for pointing this out ..?
etherealtruth
Sep 2015
#120
I would never comment on someone's looks ... for the sake of aesthetics ....
etherealtruth
Sep 2015
#122
Of her sense of entitlement, that runs all trough government though .
orpupilofnature57
Sep 2015
#126
To paraphrase yoda, my own council I will keep on what is "appropriate" or not.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#154
Some DU'ers have a short memory--or selective memory--or weren't here when GWB
mnhtnbb
Sep 2015
#164
When you publicly make a mockery of the law, you deserve whatever flak you get.
hobbit709
Sep 2015
#172
I think "appropriateness" is partly a matter of opinion here. But personally, I would tend to avoid
nomorenomore08
Sep 2015
#176