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alarimer

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34. There are many authoritarians among Democrats

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 10:12 AM

Sep 2016

They are all in favor of dissent when Republicans are in power, but when a Democrat is, they are in competition to see who can be the biggest cheerleader. You can see this in the discussion around Obama's drone bombing campaign. If Bush was doing it, they would be screaming from the rafters.

I support the ACLU always, because they stand on principle, because the principle of free speech is most important when the speech is unpopular, despicable or just wrong. I also think Snowden is not the enemy here. Our government is, if not our enemy exactly, certainly not acting in the principles we are alleged to stand for. He should be treated as a whistle-blower, certainly no different than Daniel Ellsberg, but Obama's government has been particularly hard on whistle-blowers.

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How long before DU decides to turn on the ACLU... [View all] Lancero Sep 2016 OP

Much of DU already hates the ACLU for supporting the Citizens United decision (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2016 #1

ya can't help but question that move for sure. very very strange Divine Discontent Sep 2016 #2

I don't Bucky Sep 2016 #8

Amen to that Bucky. Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2016 #20

Well said PatSeg Sep 2016 #30

YOU ONLY SPEAK FOR YOURSELF & A FEW REPUBLICANS!!! Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 #14

Do you have a link or anything? demmiblue Sep 2016 #3

THE ACLU AND CITIZENS UNITED Omaha Steve Sep 2016 #37

I support the ACLU when I agree with them.... Adrahil Sep 2016 #4

^^^ THIS ^^^ Tarheel_Dem Sep 2016 #5

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2016 #40

ACLU has defended the Klan, T-Baggers and Limbaugh among others. lpbk2713 Sep 2016 #6

ACLU position on flag desecration klook Sep 2016 #27

+1, good point... they have a history of having the strength of their convictions uponit7771 Sep 2016 #41

I turned on them 40 years ago marybourg Sep 2016 #7

Yes, god forbid you uphold a principle when it applies to shitheads. X_Digger Sep 2016 #11

They can speak, but they're marybourg Sep 2016 #16

you gotta do what you gotta do, but I can explain my reasoning for reaching Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #22

"I support free speech. Not as a preference, but as a principle." NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #24

Strange reason to "turn" on them...I thought the ACLU was incredibly brave and courageous tritsofme Sep 2016 #12

"America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship" LongtimeAZDem Sep 2016 #17

If he wishes to speak, fine. marybourg Sep 2016 #18

But my money is MY speech AlbertCat Sep 2016 #32

"Corporations are people, my friend." -- Rmoney. Iggo Sep 2016 #35

The only proper response would be to get yourself... Rochester Sep 2016 #19

I hate Illinois nazis. Iggo Sep 2016 #36

That has happened many times liberal N proud Sep 2016 #9

If they have to remain 'pure' and can't make decisions on their own... randome Sep 2016 #10

The ACLU went over the top ages ago. MohRokTah Sep 2016 #13

Free Him,,,, Has Russia Locked him up Cryptoad Sep 2016 #15

There are people here who think that it should be illegal to draw 'blasphemous' cartoons. Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #21

Since the ACLU is very pro-free speech... NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #23

DU has never really liked the ACLU linuxman Sep 2016 #25

Ten minuites n/t Kilgore Sep 2016 #26

while i respect the ACLU, i also have often thought some of their stances went against my principles La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #28

DU is never more than one Rawstory 'article' away from turning on anything. Bonx Sep 2016 #29

LOL...I only wish I could disagree. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #39

?? Been away from DU for awhile, have we? Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #31

Correct! Everyone is falling for Stone's marketing for his film. FSogol Sep 2016 #33

There are many authoritarians among Democrats alarimer Sep 2016 #34

That is their right however naive I think they're being but arthritisR_US Sep 2016 #38

I support free speech for all including assholes. PufPuf23 Sep 2016 #42

Free speech is free speeh. But what is speech? Is it something tangible and attributable? haele Sep 2016 #43