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In reply to the discussion: Democrats Willing to Fund Pro-Life Candidates to Win Back Congress [View all]John Barcell
(25 posts)How can everyone be so shortsighted? I've been a lurker for the past year and needed to make an account because of how infuriating people are being about this. It will make us lose elections, and keep losing elections all the while nobody's opinion on it will change.
Quick anecdote to start this off: me and my entire extended family has lived in Massachusetts all our lives; my aunts who live on the South Shore are deeply devout Roman Catholics and largely apolitical, they voted for Trump on the single contingent that he would appoint a conservative to the SC. Now my aunts are nice people (not misogynists in any respect as far as I can tell), and they vote on a single issue: abortion. I'm not really interested in what compels them to do this (I'm an atheist and don't want to stick my hand in that beehive), and since they live in MA their conservative votes rarely ever matter whatsoever. But still, if a handful of people in my "east coast liberal elitist" family can vote conservative for such a reason, I can only expect that to be a prevalent trend for voters the further towards the bible belt you get. (tldr: Trump and conservative voters aren't always Trump supporters or supporters of a conservative government)
Now here's my main point: this is quite simple, running pro-life democratic candidates in extremely religious districts is not a bad idea. If the candidate makes it into office by securing the religious anti-choice vote and votes on anti-abortion legislation they'll lose the base. Nobody is stupid enough to do that. "Pro-life" on a democrat is nothing more than a meaningless accolade to flaunt in front of a religious local electorate.
I know it seems like forever ago, but flashback to the early W. Bush years, the president and republicans alike musing about constitutional amendment defining marriage between 1 man and 1 woman. Even in 2008, Obama was one of those "let the states decide" people regarding gay marriage. This was a poorly-veiled lie to win a national election, but it worked. Joe Biden was not a supporter of gay marriage (remember those debate gaffs?) but subsequently got woke during his tenure, a trend I think you'd find very common among elected democratic pro-lifers. So Obama wins the WH right? And we take the senate and the house of representatives right? We get a less conservative SC and a cultural shift regarding gay marriage happens. With no conservative government to block it on a judicial, executive, or legislative level; we end up with a dramatic change in public opinion
Now abortion is even more of a polarizing topic, I know, and the poll numbers have been stagnant since the rise of conservative media and evangelicals.
This just demonstrates the significance that being pro-life/pro-choice has on hotly contested races. However, the only way we can reach the same kind of cultural shift like we saw in 2010 is with a democratic government in place. Democratic candidates need to play to the constituents, not the nation. Only then can we actually win elections. We can't helicopter around races that have nothing to do with us and our states. Once they're elected, that's when we can judge them on the national stage. All we're doing now is alienating their constituents and netting more votes for republicans. Chances are anyways, that most pro-life democrats would not support pro-life legislation, since those legislation are almost exclusively drafted by the GOP. Generally a democrats stance on sex-ed and contraceptives regardless of being pro-life or pro-choice will result in less abortion overall.
So in synopsis: we need to bullshit and lie through our teeth like we did with gay marriage in 2008. I don't give a damn about integrity or ideological purity when the Earth is burning and we're about to get into WWIII. We need to win elections and prevent Armageddon or there will be no life or choices to make about said life.