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Azathoth

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22. You're missing the point

Wed Aug 23, 2017, 01:00 AM

Aug 2017

The Communists had a Utopian dream of uniting the working classes, of using a fundamental economic message that would bind everyone from the radical black activist to the ultra-conservative white farmer in a common struggle. It didn't work, no matter how hard they tried.

You can't mix opposing identity politics in a coalition. It doesn't work. White working class voters (including cops, by the way) and BLM activists (I'm just using them as a handy example, but there are countless others) are not going to coexist in a coalition, no matter how rational and compelling the argument to unite is.

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Is it possible for Democrats to coalesce and defeat the radical right? [View all] Cary Aug 2017 OP

Yes but first we have to want to coalesce wasupaloopa Aug 2017 #1

Interesting answer. Cary Aug 2017 #2

I think that there are those who like 2010 and 2014 will not vote unless the Dems run on everything wasupaloopa Aug 2017 #14

How do you know that people didn't vote because they didn't have it all? Cary Aug 2017 #15

They said so wasupaloopa Aug 2017 #16

I don't know if you can go back and read posts from Nov 2014 but that's what I am talking about. wasupaloopa Aug 2017 #17

Our demographics tend to not vote in mid terms Cary Aug 2017 #20

We need a plan with a Leader... FarPoint Aug 2017 #29

Depends. Economic populism has broad appeal Azathoth Aug 2017 #3

Most white working class are not Nazis... AntiFascist Aug 2017 #19

You're missing the point Azathoth Aug 2017 #22

I agree that the radical and ultra-conservative extremes are not likely to get along.. AntiFascist Aug 2017 #37

Define "Democrats" ... are you talking about real Democrats? NurseJackie Aug 2017 #4

Real democrats can. Stop rat fuckers. melanctha Aug 2017 #5

It will be more difficult to fight a two-front war... but there's no reconciliation on the horizon. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #6

I have confidence in us. Cary Aug 2017 #8

Knowing the identity of the enemy is important. Understanding what their goal is... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #12

Everything will change Cary Aug 2017 #13

Yes, people who demand the majority give them MaryLouisaWillis Aug 2017 #34

I don't know Cary Aug 2017 #7

"Sarandon"! Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #18

I think you are making a conflicting argument. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #9

That things could be worse is not that much consolation. Cary Aug 2017 #10

It really isn't much consolation. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #11

I voted yes because I want it to be Cary Aug 2017 #21

Me too MaryLouisaWillis Aug 2017 #35

Yes, but only if the vote-purity-thing is sublimated... VOX Aug 2017 #23

All true. Cary Aug 2017 #24

Anything is possible. ck4829 Aug 2017 #25

Anything is possible after all IndieRick Aug 2017 #26

The radical right and Republicans are a criminal enterprise Cary Aug 2017 #30

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #31

Actually I haven't seen any evidence of that Cary Aug 2017 #39

There is none, at all. But the hatred of the Clintons counters actual facts. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #40

I call it irrational loathing Cary Aug 2017 #41

+1 leftstreet Aug 2017 #33

Here is where your analysis makes no sense MaryLouisaWillis Aug 2017 #36

all you have to do is understand that evil exists and beachbum bob Aug 2017 #27

It's possible, but so long as their are those still holding grudges and those demanding perfection LostOne4Ever Aug 2017 #28

Not only is it 100% possible, it's goddamn necessary Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #32

Only if they drop weak bullshit like a "better deal" alarimer Aug 2017 #38