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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders voters helped Trump become President [View all]andym
(5,774 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:51 PM - Edit history (1)
in the swing states especially. Take a look at the two articles below-- surprising numbers of Obama voters went for Trump. Look at the second one for a county by county breakdown. Many of these voters are not the radical left but rather swing voters who are now swinging more Republican than Democrat. Some of these of course may include some of the Sander's voters in the OP, but it is very unclear. it's interesting that Obama actually received Republican support that did not translate to Hillary Clinton.
The Obama-Trump Voters Are Real. Heres What They Think.
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn AUG. 15, 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/upshot/the-obama-trump-voters-are-real-heres-what-they-think.html?mcubz=0
"But the national vote doesnt count, and Mrs. Clinton is not the president. She lost primarily because of the narrow but deep swing among white working-class voters who were overrepresented in decisive battleground states.
Just 74 percent of white Obama voters with a high school diploma or less backed Mrs. Clinton in the voter study group cited by Mr. Milbank.
Similarly, the Cooperative Congressional Election Study found that Mrs. Clinton won just 78 percent of white Obama voters without a bachelors degree. The figure was even lower in the key Rust Belt battlegrounds."
Those are big numbers. This article is worth reading-- lots of interesting points about racial resentment, souring on Obama, etc to help explain what happened in the election-- all backed up with strong data.
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Here is the county by county breakdown from just after the election:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/obama-trump-counties/
These former Obama strongholds sealed the election for Trump
by Kevin Uhrmacher, Kevin Schaul and Dan Keating
"Across swing states and others previously thought to be safe for Democrats Trump colored dozens of counties red that hadnt gone Republican in decades.
Of the nearly 700 counties that twice sent Obama to the White House, a stunning one-third flipped to support Trump.
Trump also won 194 of the 207 counties that voted for Obama either in 2008 or 2012."
The data speak for themselves..