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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders voters helped Trump become President [View all]
emulatorloo
(45,646 posts)334. Article's not about you. All DU Sanders supporters voted for the Dem in the general
Unsure why you so defensive about a Newsweek article that isn't about you
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That would make them Nationalists. So yeah, that might be a factor and would fit in with other
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#10
Nationalists, American Firsters, screw the rest of worlders, Our jobs are more important than
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#502
Easy Buddy...I figured that bottle of Jack you downed earlier would have done you in..lol!!
Docreed2003
Aug 2017
#228
Anyone who backed Edwards ... well, that's a historical embarassment, to say the least.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2017
#358
it shows she is full of shit . it doesn't matter what edwards was seen as . yeah, he had dumbfuck
JI7
Aug 2017
#359
"She thinks that a vote for Trump could bring the revolution, so to speak,"
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
Aug 2017
#507
Hillary also promised to reform NAFTA. Why the fuck would anyone believe a Trump promise?
SunSeeker
Aug 2017
#181
The voters in the rust belt talked about here have little in common with Sarandon
Tom Rinaldo
Aug 2017
#412
IOW, Sanders appealed to the needed Independents, whom Hillary could not win over.
thesquanderer
Aug 2017
#431
re: "any of those votes that did migrate from Bernie to Trump I don't think Hillary ever had anyway"
thesquanderer
Aug 2017
#486
I think virtually every Clinton voter would have voted for Sanders over Trump. But...
thesquanderer
Aug 2017
#488
Assuming that this is actually true....hopefully the DNC will learn a lesson from this....
virtualobserver
Aug 2017
#7
"You don't see the Republicans re-litigating the existence of challengers to Trump..."
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2017
#365
Yes, if only we had had a broad field of DEMOCRATS to choose from in 2016
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2017
#109
The GOP field is irrelevant. I'm suggesting that if we want to look at what WE can do better
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2017
#215
I think it felt that way only because a couple dropped out very early- people forget they were ever
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#247
I suspect if Senator Warren had run, Bernie wouldn't have gotten in.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2017
#276
I can't get away with rehashing the primary here, as even when I talk about the GE I get frivolous
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#282
So do I. I think a bigger field would have been better but not clown car big like the GOP.
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#294
I've lost count of the number of threads that blame third party candidates for our losses.
progressoid
Aug 2017
#310
I'd say the lesson is to not nominate someone with almost no appeal outside the Dem party. (n/t)
thesquanderer
Aug 2017
#430
Clinton's favorables were in the high 60's when she left State. Not just Democrats
emulatorloo
Aug 2017
#453
It obviously was not based on intellectual reasoning. Not based on policies.
kerry-is-my-prez
Aug 2017
#66
Wonder if Hillary will mention this in her book splainin "What Happened"?... Doubtful.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Aug 2017
#74
She's not making the claim. It was an analysis of the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey
lunamagica
Aug 2017
#101
I wonder if she'll speculate as to why the only other Democrat in the primary race
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2017
#170
You seem to forget HRC's favorability numbers were in the high 60's when she left State
emulatorloo
Aug 2017
#349
How, exactly, did they do that? If you are going to say Brazile gave Clinton debate questions,
Squinch
Aug 2017
#196
If you aren't familiar with all of the things that the DNC did to favor a particular candidate.....
virtualobserver
Aug 2017
#205
One question. About the water crisis in Flint during the Flint debate. And the Times article
Squinch
Aug 2017
#384
so why did she email the Hillary campaign and say that " a woman with a rash"....
virtualobserver
Aug 2017
#392
No. None of the articles mentioned multiple questions. And Brazile probably initially denied
Squinch
Aug 2017
#383
One question is all anyone has ever referred to, and it is all the source email ever discussed.
Squinch
Aug 2017
#394
All your article adds is that she shared "potential town hall topics" with the Clinton campaign, but
Squinch
Aug 2017
#399
The favoritism was imagined. And the vote for Trump(R) was revenge for their little fever dream.
Squinch
Aug 2017
#382
Nope, it was Wikileaks spin. "Confirmed" by clickbait exploitive bloggers and Russia Today
emulatorloo
Aug 2017
#454
If you aren't going to run a fair race, you might as well just eliminate primaries.
virtualobserver
Aug 2017
#377
If many Dem voters are going to listen to bot conspiracies that let them express their
Squinch
Aug 2017
#385
Conspiracy theories ginned up by bots that resulted in an outcry against a good candidate by her
Squinch
Aug 2017
#395
I see the cynicism coming from an entirely different location. And I see a lot of dumb people
Squinch
Aug 2017
#400
I guarantee that no matter what the DNC does, certain idiots will be alienated because they
Squinch
Aug 2017
#402
Was there really any doubt? Everything in the world was against Clinton -- Comey, Russia, Nazis,
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#8
He also beat a slew of republican "talent" conservative media raved about for years.
JHan
Aug 2017
#51
A lot of it was an emotional reaction probably. Anger. Maybe some didn't like a female candidate.
kerry-is-my-prez
Aug 2017
#62
Yes, the electoral college must go... someone needs to lead the fight for this.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Aug 2017
#308
He's repulsive. I tend to think he's like looking at a train wreck but all publicity is
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#422
No I meant you are defensive about an article that isn't about you or any of us Bernie primary
emulatorloo
Aug 2017
#341
Hopefully this has impressed upon her that there are times and places for symbolic votes...
Salviati
Aug 2017
#145
Then there are the ones who were so mad Bernie did not win the nomination
redstatebluegirl
Aug 2017
#421
This is really going to get nasty when Sanders is the first to throw his hat in the ring.
Weekend Warrior
Aug 2017
#14
He is spending more time outside of the state he represents than in it.
Weekend Warrior
Aug 2017
#49
I agree that he'd be too old to be starting a 4 year term & if Warren runs, wouldn't he stay out?
MrPurple
Aug 2017
#140
I'm almost certain that he will run. His ego is to big to see the negatives you listed
lunamagica
Aug 2017
#115
No doubt... and why not? Bernie's only the most popular politician in America today!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Aug 2017
#65
He's lost a lot of his following, including me. I don't have much love for him anymore. He did not
kerry-is-my-prez
Aug 2017
#138
Popularity can be short-lived. HRC's popularity was in the upper 60's when she left State
emulatorloo
Aug 2017
#337
No one splains it better than Bernie, especially to overflowing crowds at his rallys.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Aug 2017
#456
Elizabeth would be awesome! Unfortunately a lot of ageists here will disagree.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Aug 2017
#123
They don't like "establishment" politicians and that's part of Russia's attack on our institutions
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#22
There is a not too subtle implication that Bernie supporters aren't loyal.
progressoid
Aug 2017
#296
The facts of the OP are that Sanders voters are more loyal than "usual".
redgreenandblue
Aug 2017
#368
Well they were targeted to suppress the vote in the general according to our IC....
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#20
Not seeing anybody arguing Bernie or his campaign had anything to with this small minority of voters
emulatorloo
Aug 2017
#498
Makes sense for sure, Sanders people were really pissed clinton got the nod.......
Old Vet
Aug 2017
#46
Kinda like all the pissed off Clinton supporters who voted for McCain in 2008
Major Nikon
Aug 2017
#52
I was a Clinton supporter but would never have dreamed of voting Repub. I have as much disdain
kerry-is-my-prez
Aug 2017
#203
Regardless many more did, and the election was projected to be much closer
Major Nikon
Aug 2017
#213
I wasn't aware of those stats. That is seriously fucked up! A distant friend did this but she was
kerry-is-my-prez
Aug 2017
#232
Which is why I don't want to listen to them bitch about Trump now. This happened in 2000, and...
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2017
#37
If you voted Dem. in the end, you shouldn't have to feel bad. I supported Clinton over Obama
kerry-is-my-prez
Aug 2017
#218
Yes, there is no reason to continue this argument. Learn the lessons and move on.
YOHABLO
Aug 2017
#60
It's almost like empowering and raising up surrogates that go on to support a 3rd party or...
SaschaHM
Aug 2017
#64
The article says the majority of Bernie supporters voted for the Dem in the GE
emulatorloo
Aug 2017
#338
Guilt by association I guess. I too voted for Hillary despite all the condemnation of Bernie...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Aug 2017
#128
It did. Thank you. I think the majority of us only have problems with the ones who didn't vote Dem.
kerry-is-my-prez
Aug 2017
#227
Apparently not. I expect a couple dozen anti-Stein and anti-green threads before the week is out.
Gore1FL
Aug 2017
#87
Well some polls came out- so its current events. About the election, not the primary.
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#188
Article's not about you. All DU Sanders supporters voted for the Dem in the general
emulatorloo
Aug 2017
#334
I never doubted it. Their disgraceful display during the convention spoke volumes
lunamagica
Aug 2017
#94
Now we know. The answer is closed primaries. Reg as a Democrat and you get to vote
TeamPooka
Aug 2017
#104
Who knew? Regardless, Bernie has moved on - quite well I might add - and is leading the resistance.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Aug 2017
#116
Yes... 50 lashes for the guy who's currently the country's most popular politician.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Aug 2017
#132
Clearly the article is talking about BS's followers who did not vote for Hillary, not BS himself.
Squinch
Aug 2017
#202
And all DU Sanders Supporters voted for HRC in the general. Not understanding the overreaction
emulatorloo
Aug 2017
#345
It's as predictable as summer following spring, but I don't understand it either.
Squinch
Aug 2017
#387
That last tweet makes it clear. Sadly, nothing is going to change the fact we have Prez Trump now.
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#231
No doubt some Sanders' voters helped Trump, but some former Obama voters made a bigger difference
andym
Aug 2017
#122
Yes. This is what is discussed in the first article I wrote as well-- here are some quotes:
andym
Aug 2017
#367
I think Hillary supporters in the primary would have voted for the Democratic candidate
aikoaiko
Aug 2017
#179
With 4 million votes less in the primaries and no support in key states? Virtually impossible. nt
stevenleser
Aug 2017
#283
Yes, they most certainly did. And now we're all stuck with the fallout. NT
Bleacher Creature
Aug 2017
#126
what kind of a loonball would vote for trump after listening to his BS for 6 mos?
mdbl
Aug 2017
#146
I don't disagree. There were numerous reasons Hillary lost. We need to own all of them and
applegrove
Aug 2017
#204
I have no rightious indignation. I knew Bernie was an issue here when I posted.
applegrove
Aug 2017
#278
PW lists 7 or so of the most salient political stories a day. It is an amalgamation
applegrove
Aug 2017
#198
Holy crap, this was posted barely two hours ago and already there are 200 responses!!!
George II
Aug 2017
#208
And can anyone blame Sanders for the string of GOP victories at the state level?
guillaumeb
Aug 2017
#222
So 12% of Bernie Sanders voters were anyone but Hillary voters. Who cares? She is not running again.
Freethinker65
Aug 2017
#223
Reading to the end shows Sanders voters are more loyal to the party, actually
Lordquinton
Aug 2017
#253
The fact that he attracted some Republican voters is most likely due to a common practice
pnwmom
Aug 2017
#504
Actually enough of them voted for Stein or wrote in someone's name other than
still_one
Aug 2017
#350
Actually, there were a good number of DUers who LEFT DU because they refused to vote for the
still_one
Aug 2017
#388
Well you've summarized the article well. It isn't about DU Sanders supporters, or Bernie
emulatorloo
Aug 2017
#351
Exactly, and it only took a minority of them, and the minority that did it mostly voted for Stein or
still_one
Aug 2017
#357
There are NOT two wings of the Democratic party. Those who refused to vote for the Democratic
still_one
Aug 2017
#380
Did you read the whole article? It is normal that the middle doesn't hold. And some in the
applegrove
Aug 2017
#323
Those were likely trolls. I don't think any real DUers celebrated Trump's win.
applegrove
Aug 2017
#322
So you know they were Bernie fans on Twitter? I can't quite take the pulse of Twitter.
applegrove
Aug 2017
#326
There you have it. Had Bernie been our nominee, he would have beat Trump handily. We tried
brewens
Aug 2017
#328
"This is your fault. If you had just paid our ransom, we wouldn't have had to kill the country."
Maven
Aug 2017
#427
Please. He didn't even get enough votes to win the primary. In fact he never came even close.
lunamagica
Aug 2017
#485
Those Sanders' supporters that refused to vote for the Democratic nominee, bear the
still_one
Aug 2017
#348
What it actually was was that some voters who backed Bernie out of alienation in the spring..
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#354
Lets be fair at least 12% of his voters were never democrat voters they were Bernie voters
krawhitham
Aug 2017
#364
Maybe we should call them racist and sexist some more. That might persuade them. nt
redgreenandblue
Aug 2017
#366
if they voted for trump they are racist and sexist. no need to persuade them of anything
JI7
Aug 2017
#373
It makes sense that those are the SAME ones who are pissed-off at Newsweek and...
NurseJackie
Aug 2017
#423
That block of Sanders voters NEVER WOULD have voted for HRC anyway. So it's a moot point.
vkkv
Aug 2017
#466
If you really "voted for Hillary", then the article isn't about you, now is it?
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2017
#477
You voted for Hillary. No one is questioning you or holding anything against you. nt
SunSeeker
Aug 2017
#483
I'm having a hard time figuring out why some of you are protesting so much if you all "voted for...
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2017
#489
Au contraire. We may lose, but it won't be because of "attacking the very people......". If you..
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2017
#501