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BumRushDaShow

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Fri Sep 13, 2024, 06:22 PM Friday

Pennsylvania Supreme Court rules mail ballots with incorrect dates won't be counted [View all]

Source: NBC News

Sept. 13, 2024, 5:59 PM EDT


The Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled Friday that mail ballots that are improperly dated won't be counted in November, a move that could have major implications in the closely divided battleground state. The decision reverses a lower court ruling from last month that found it was unconstitutional to reject mail ballots that had a missing or incorrect date.

The bureaucratic requirements of ballots in Pennsylvania have long been the subject of litigation, with opponents of the date requirements arguing that they unnecessarily disenfranchise eligible voters. A group of voting rights advocates went to court in May seeking to block the provision, which required election officials to reject ballots that were incorrectly dated, even if the ballot reached them by the statutory deadline of 8 p.m. on Election Day.

The Republican National Committee and Pennsylvania Republican Party stepped in to support of the date provision, arguing it was important to election integrity. Their appeal of the Commonwealth Court's ruling from two weeks ago was successful on Friday.

Democrats have utilized mail voting more heavily than Republicans in recent elections in Pennsylvania and elsewhere.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/pennsylvania-supreme-court-mail-ballots-incorrect-dates-rcna170819



As a note - even with Democrats using these "no excuse absentee ballots" more than Republicans, they were only utilized by about 1/3rd of our voters. MOST people still go "in person" on election day to vote (and that includes Democrats).

The last mail ballot I did for this year's primary had a redesigned back of the envelope that was WAY clearer on what needed to be filled out, so hopefully that will help to a degree.
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What dates need to match up? SomedayKindaLove Friday #1
It seems most of the issues have been with envelopes with no date added at all BumRushDaShow Friday #4
The date that goes on the security envelope InstantGratification Saturday #22
Thank you for the explanation. evolves Saturday #36
I love voting by mail InstantGratification Saturday #38
"The ballot has no signature or other identifying markings on it, just the candidates and the issues" - Nope not here BumRushDaShow Saturday #43
Sorry, my wording left room to misinterpret. The point I meant to convey is InstantGratification Saturday #49
"The QR code identifying the ward is new to me. I don't know if OH does that or not." BumRushDaShow Saturday #59
This confirms what I suspected. ShazzieB Saturday #58
Must the handwritten date on the security envelope match the postmark date? Oopsie Daisy Sunday #69
Not a matter of matching up, some just forget to put the date after they sign Deminpenn Saturday #25
It's A Farce RobinA Monday #77
How is the voter liable for a date error if the ballot was received in time? Karadeniz Friday #2
I'm not sure why the date is so important on the ballot as long as it gets in on time. LymphocyteLover Saturday #34
I usually early vote in person a couple days before progree Friday #3
We have no "early in-person voting" here in PA (i.e., using voting machines) BumRushDaShow Friday #6
I haven't trusted mail ballots in Texas for years. Lonestarblue Friday #5
We have only been doing this current thing since 2020 BumRushDaShow Friday #9
The old absentee ballots in my county had the forms printed horizontally Deminpenn Saturday #27
Different Counties have been configuring the envelopes and ballots differently BumRushDaShow Saturday #42
It should be standard Deminpenn Saturday #48
Well BumRushDaShow Saturday #50
Meant should be standard within the Commonwealth of PA Deminpenn Saturday #62
I don't think that will ever happen either BumRushDaShow Saturday #63
I'm the same way as you, and I'm in Kansas. slightlv Friday #14
Have you recived your mail in ballot yet? I'm in Kansas--Sedgwick Co Bengus81 Saturday #37
After the hassle last time, slightlv Saturday #61
DO NOT trust mail in anywhere HagathaCrispy Friday #7
In person with ID Linpark90 Friday #21
The issue with dates on mail in ballots MissKat Friday #8
There are Counties here that offer the ability to "cure" including here in Philly BumRushDaShow Friday #10
Yes and the ballot "curing" is also done in Allegheny County FakeNoose Friday #19
"people sometimes see DATE and they put their birthday" - wow, that's the ultimate in early voting progree Friday #13
How many R's vs D's do you have on your state's court? slightlv Friday #15
The PA Supreme Court has a 5-2 majority of Dems. John1956PA Saturday #26
PA Supreme Court is 5D, 2R Deminpenn Saturday #28
OFFS! nt RobinA Monday #78
Ruling was technical Deminpenn Monday #80
If the ballot is deemed invalid, will they be notified in time to then vote in person? everyonematters Friday #11
It seems to vary from County to County BumRushDaShow Friday #12
If it's known that's all the election office is allowed to check (of course) slightlv Friday #16
If we lose based on ballots with incorrect dates, we deserve to lose. C'mon people, it's not so hard to fill in the Martin68 Friday #17
+1. I'd bet money GOPers are more apt to screw up ballots than Democrats. Silent Type Saturday #51
What Is RobinA Monday #79
As with any notarized document or contract, the date is the actual date you sign a document. Martin68 Monday #82
Hard To Understand This Ruling DallasNE Friday #18
Until now, the quarantined ballots have been relegated to provisional status FakeNoose Friday #20
Looks like 2000 all over again !TRE45ON. ArmedLiberal24 Saturday #24
We shoud sue again for provisional status bucolic_frolic Saturday #31
I remember other Republicon tricks in Florida 2000 with butterfly ballots. Another design for republicon filth to cheat. ArmedLiberal24 Saturday #23
No, that's the wrong take Deminpenn Saturday #32
PA Supreme Court cited a lack of standing in overturning the Commonwealth Court Deminpenn Saturday #29
I hope you're right FakeNoose Saturday #41
There went contract law - all you need is a postmark - Photo your enveiope!!!!!! bucolic_frolic Saturday #30
Updated republican racist/hate driven poll tax wolfie001 Saturday #33
I agree on John Roberts being a spineless weasel, in general Dock_Yard Saturday #55
Already posted MichMan Saturday #35
CAN'T WE PLEASE ALL GO AND VOTE IN PERSON SO THEY CANT STEAL IT???? HagathaCrispy Saturday #39
THIS WOULD BE BEST -- LEAVE NO DOUBTS ON OUR VOTES ACTUALLY COUNTING Dock_Yard Saturday #56
Not every piece of successfully delivered mail gets a postmark. I receive MANY cards and letters * Oopsie Daisy Saturday #40
PA mail in ballots must be requested PennRalphie Saturday #44
They have required that people "request" or "renew" each year since 2020 BumRushDaShow Saturday #60
I'm not sure everyone knows this PennRalphie Saturday #64
At least here in Philly, they (the City Commissioners who run the elections) have been talking it up BumRushDaShow Saturday #65
I realize Philly rules PA PennRalphie Saturday #66
To respond BumRushDaShow Sunday #67
You have great in depth knowledge. PennRalphie Sunday #68
As a reply BumRushDaShow Sunday #71
There are very few indies here PennRalphie Sunday #72
And again BumRushDaShow Sunday #76
What's the make up of the PA Supreme Court? AdamGG Saturday #45
5 Democrats 2 Republicans Wiz Imp Saturday #53
Some "democracy" you have here. SidneyR Saturday #46
The Date Thing RobinA Monday #81
I sense a "hanging Chad" decision as a clerk if a "11" is really a "10" or "Nov" is really "Nav" LiberalArkie Saturday #47
COLORADO VOTERS: in Colorado it's not enough to have your ballot postmarked by Election Day. CrispyQ Saturday #52
PEOPLE: JUST VOTE AT A POLLING PLACE THIS ONE TIME Dock_Yard Saturday #54
Agreed. Even when we're at the brink of losing our democracy, Frank D. Lincoln Saturday #57
NO - PA has no "early voting" BumRushDaShow Sunday #73
Oh come ON ... Dock_Yard Monday #85
Most people DO go "in person" BumRushDaShow Monday #86
i vote by mail et tu Sunday #70
THIS 👆👆👆 BumRushDaShow Sunday #74
... et tu Sunday #75
When I Went RobinA Monday #83
good for you et tu Monday #84
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