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54. Man's inhumanity to man in full display. I've been to Israel seven times and I'm never going back.

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2024, 07:10 PM

Nov 20

According to Amnesty International, before Oct 2023 the IDF held approximately 2,000 Palestinians in indefinite security detention without trial or hearing like the man below. See full report linked at bottom.

IDF soldiers abusing unarmed and bare-footed Palestinian man in Hebron, the West Bank, who allegedly resisted arrest. Look at the joyful expressions on the faces of the soldiers. Is the man crying out "I can't breathe?" The IDF said this case was "under investigation." (Photo: 22 Sep 2016, Reuters)

With no hope or chance of seeing the release of the 2,000 detainees like the Palestinian pictured above, armed groups conducted their brazen surprise attack on 7 Oct 2023 to seize captives for a prisoner swap. The assault killed 1,200 Israeli citizens and resulted in 250 hostages taken (including several AMCITS). A US 9/11 Commission-style report would gravely damage Likud Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu.

Upon advice of D/Mossad, the Likud Cabinet conducted one such trade in Nov 2023, releasing several innocent Israelis and Palestinians. See CNN report below.

Afterwards, the rightwing Likud cabinet stopped negotiating and "rolled out Nakba 2023" against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The exact quote by Likud Minister Avi Dichter is linked below. According to Wikipedia, the Likud reprisal ratio against Palestinians in Gaza for the 7 Oct 2023 attack is almost 40:1.

Likud Security Cabinet member Avi Dichter at the Knesset general assembly in May 2024. He publicly called for Nakba 2023, destroying any chance of a two-state solution. (Photo: Noam Moskowitz / Knesset spokesperson)

See all sources below.

Sources:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/11/israel-opt-horrifying-cases-of-torture-and-degrading-treatment-of-palestinian-detainees-amid-spike-in-arbitrary-arrests/

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/22/world/what-do-we-know-about-the-israel-hamas-hostage-deal/index.html

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-12/ty-article/israeli-security-cabinet-member-calls-north-gaza-evacuation-nakba-2023/0000018b-c2be-dea2-a9bf-d2be7b670000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war

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Virtually no aid has reached besieged north Gaza in 40 days, UN says [View all] muriel_volestrangler Nov 20 OP

Bibi wants money, but wants roadblocks to getting Palestinians aid. Omnipresent Nov 20 #1

I'd think Palestinian leadership should be questioned jimfields33 Nov 20 #2

Can they hear the questions around the explosions and ambulance sirens? Omnipresent Nov 20 #3

Yes they can. Even from Turkey, or Qatar, or from wherever they are hiding. Beastly Boy Nov 20 #24

What are you trying to say? Omnipresent Nov 20 #55

I am trying to answer your question. Beastly Boy Nov 20 #57

You can't send in aid from the West Bank without getting past the Israeli soldiers muriel_volestrangler Nov 20 #4

The convoys are getting past Israeli soldiers allright! They are being left undelivered and looted Beastly Boy Nov 20 #27

Except that is not what news reports say. For instance, the one in the OP. (nt) muriel_volestrangler Nov 20 #31

Don't believe your lyin eyes Beastly Boy Nov 20 #35

The Kerem Shalom crossing is in southern Gaza muriel_volestrangler Nov 20 #37

"Order-enforcing replacements". What a pretty euphemism! Beastly Boy Nov 20 #42

Not a euphemism. As Haaretz wrote, muriel_volestrangler Nov 20 #46

What made them "local police", other than the guns? Beastly Boy Nov 20 #49

Bollocks. muriel_volestrangler Nov 20 #52

Who identified them as police, and on what grounds? Beastly Boy Nov 20 #53

Where would they get supplies to take care of people? womanofthehills Nov 20 #14

On the Gaza side of the border. Tons of supplies are stuck in Gaza and remain undelivered Beastly Boy Nov 20 #29

The warehouses under Israeli control? muriel_volestrangler Nov 20 #34

Bernie is working on part of that - womanofthehills Nov 20 #9

Hello Israel supporters, this is not OK!! AloeVera Nov 20 #5

I understand. But they've been saying that Gaza is in the jimfields33 Nov 20 #7

Trucks are often blocked at border womanofthehills Nov 20 #10

Hamas is just terrible. jimfields33 Nov 20 #11

But you fail to mention Israel drones womanofthehills Nov 20 #16

Israel is supplying the food. Would be weird for them to destroy it. jimfields33 Nov 20 #19

Israel doesn't supply the food. The UN does. NGOs do. Israel then decides if they block it or not. muriel_volestrangler Nov 20 #22

It is not Hamas, it is criminal gangs looting right under the IDF's noses. AloeVera Nov 20 #23

Yes, more questions. Imagine IDF interfering with the looting in any way. Beastly Boy Nov 20 #39

So they shoot at Palestinian policemen trying to prevent the looting instead? N/T. AloeVera Nov 20 #40

Yes. Yes they do. Look up the rules governing enemy combatants in the Geneva Conventions. Beastly Boy Nov 20 #45

I don't think the 2 sides went to the aid trucks hand-in-hand. AloeVera Nov 20 #48

Regardless of what you think, Beastly Boy Nov 20 #50

You can have all the trucks in the world but if they deny the request for the access it does no good. moniss Nov 20 #13

Now drones are destroying the aid womanofthehills Nov 20 #15

Pure sadistic barbarism. AloeVera Nov 20 #18

It's a land grab by genocide Avalon Sparks Nov 20 #25

Thank you, kindred spirit. AloeVera Nov 20 #30

We truly are Avalon Sparks Nov 20 #59

Whose drones? Where? Link please! Beastly Boy Nov 20 #33

No, I don't think you understand. AloeVera Nov 20 #21

The same people who say it is pure evil for Israel to not take charge of aid deliveries in Gaza, also say Beastly Boy Nov 20 #58

Hello Israel detractor, tons of supplies are siring on the Gazan side of the border Beastly Boy Nov 20 #32

The BBC really left a lot out in this article Mosby Nov 20 #6

Horrible. They were voted in to take care of their population jimfields33 Nov 20 #8

Wow! And you read this where? womanofthehills Nov 20 #17

Still doesn't excuse the Palestinian government from negligence. jimfields33 Nov 20 #20

It's criminal gangs allowed to loot by the IDF. AloeVera Nov 20 #38

That was in central and southern Gaza, not northern, so it's not the story the BBC was reporting muriel_volestrangler Nov 20 #12

Holocaust Survivor: "Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza. We've got to fight back." C0RI0LANUS Nov 20 #26

Sanders is a non practicing Jew who doesn't represent Jews. JohnSJ Nov 20 #36

When the sociopath takes over I wonder what will happen? JohnSJ Nov 20 #28

After 13 months you're still wondering what happens when a sociopath is given free rein?? AloeVera Nov 20 #41

If hamas didn't provide the catalyst of October 7, this would NOT have happened. In addition, the actions of hamas JohnSJ Nov 20 #43

Nice try. N/T AloeVera Nov 20 #44

Nice try about what? Hamas has all but insured that netanyahu will not be leaving anytime soon. JohnSJ Nov 20 #47

US Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) represents human beings and ran for President of the United States. C0RI0LANUS Nov 20 #51

Very interesting. Bernie represents human beings. Beastly Boy Nov 20 #56

Man's inhumanity to man in full display. I've been to Israel seven times and I'm never going back. C0RI0LANUS Nov 20 #54