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20. "...one giant circle jerk and echo chamber."

Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:09 PM

Nov 21

Are they talking about Fox/OAN/Newsmax, or MSNBC? Why is a circle-jerk echo chamber bad for MSNBC and good for Fox News?

There's a lot of MSNBC bashing on DU. What else compares to it? Where will we go for less conservative national coverage?

The fact that enough libs ditched MSNBC after the election to cause financial hardship that threatens the very existence of the network is frustrating. MSNBC really didn't do anything wrong, like Fox News that platforms racists, homophobes and seditionist pigs.

I wish libs could be more loyal to progressive news outlets without demanding ideological purity. An MSNBC that is principally liberal, but with a few token cons for perceived balance is better than no MSNBC at all.

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Rachel Maddow Takes Pay Cut With MSNBC's Future in Jeopardy [View all] BumRushDaShow Nov 21 OP

Only $12,500 bucks per hour. Basso8vb Nov 21 #1

Money in news media is obscene. jimfields33 Nov 21 #40

So are salaries for football and baseball stars. How are those justifiable? Or maybe it's because... Hekate Nov 22 #67

Both are also ridiculous. Add actors to the mix too. jimfields33 Nov 22 #71

The real question is: How much are all the MEN making? and are any of them giving some back? Hekate Nov 21 #43

The men will make 40% more than the women. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 21 #47

Sounds about right. But let's just beat up on the one woman who's a star. smdh Hekate Nov 21 #52

The men will make 40% more than the women. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 21 #48

She's pretty well compensated either way. TrollBuster9090 Nov 22 #62

I find it so interesting that so many people belittle the time it takes to prepare a lecture... Hekate Nov 22 #66

True, but Maddow also has a staff and Steve Benen Deminpenn Nov 22 #73

That she supervises Hekate Nov 22 #86

It's still people to whom she can Deminpenn Nov 22 #91

Nicolle Wallace should be up there with a lot more pay. tinymontgomery Nov 22 #72

more than that lapfog_1 Nov 21 #55

She's on the air one hour per week. That's $480,000 per hour. TrollBuster9090 Nov 22 #61

When I talk about obscene salaries, I like to break it down as if they worked 40 hours a week like the rest of us. Basso8vb Nov 22 #82

FWIT She doesn't just come out and sit at a desk. JohnnyRingo Nov 22 #64

Maddow is a national treasure with more balls and intellect than anyone with an R after their name NotHardly Nov 22 #84

CEOs laying ppl off earn alot more. Rachel earned her due. onetexan Nov 22 #89

Suggestions Needed for Spinco.nt delisen Nov 21 #2

Good on Rachel. Nt spooky3 Nov 21 #3

I'm sure Rachel will survive this, if anyone does. milestogo Nov 21 #4

Ditch the corporate media, Rachel Blue Owl Nov 21 #5

Is there even going to be cable news in 10 years? Dulcinea Nov 22 #79

We quit watching for a while after the election. surfered Nov 21 #6

Those would also be my top picks soldierant Nov 21 #21

Yes. We really like Nicole surfered Nov 21 #26

Rachel, I love you, but DonCoquixote Nov 21 #7

I think msnbc absolutely needs her voice, now more babylonsister Nov 21 #10

I agree, and it seems management does as well: "No one else can do what she does" Hekate Nov 21 #44

on one of her monday shows before the election (or maybe on election night) rachel said if kamala doesn't win orleans Nov 21 #27

I still remember when she was a frequent guest on Keith Olbermann's show Seasider Nov 21 #8

I remember her from Air America yliza Nov 21 #30

Me, as well. electric_blue68 Nov 22 #68

$30 million a year Escape Nov 21 #9

"but will never watch her again for the rest of my life" speak easy Nov 21 #19

Something tells me you already don't watch her. canuckledragger Nov 21 #22

Been listening to Rachel ... Escape Nov 21 #24

Since around the time Obama was still elected. canuckledragger Nov 21 #25

I am gonna Escape Nov 21 #38

Post removed Post removed Nov 21 #58

That was in 2004. Air America Radio dhol82 Nov 21 #31

Back then, as well. I will continue to listen to her and the other night crew. electric_blue68 Nov 22 #70

no one works harder than Rachel to bring us the truth cadoman Nov 21 #28

How much do you think Christiane Amanpour gets paid? displacedvermoter Nov 21 #57

looks like at least $5 million cadoman Nov 22 #93

How terribly sad that one woman managed to negotiate what all the men get by male right Hekate Nov 21 #46

The wealthy nut who bought the banana "art" is not American. nt spooky3 Nov 21 #53

"Watch this space" is an advertisement Prairie Gates Nov 22 #83

THIS A CONVERSATION WE NEED TO BE HAVING........ Escape Nov 22 #92

I wonder if kacekwl Nov 21 #11

Did the CEO or CFO take a pay cut? F that. nt LittleGirl Nov 21 #14

Msnbc has been failing us for years...moving rt was wrong, forced on us by conservative owners and pundits PortTack Nov 21 #12

I have turned it all off since before the election. onecaliberal Nov 21 #13

All news media is dead to me. ZonkerHarris Nov 21 #15

Second that! Different Drummer Nov 21 #34

The reality of the exodus... Trueblue Texan Nov 21 #16

I now get most of my news from the monologues on youtube mdbl Nov 21 #17

Seth Meyers does fantastic work as well tishaLA Nov 21 #23

Yes mdbl Nov 21 #29

MSNBC is the best we've got. Sucha NastyWoman Nov 21 #18

You aren't the only one yliza Nov 21 #35

If it dies, it will due to its complicity with the trump regime choie Nov 21 #39

Absolutely the case. This is the network Bluetus Nov 21 #49

I'm surprised too. dgauss Nov 21 #42

We have no idea how many won't be offered a jimfields33 Nov 21 #45

I'm w you. Rachel from her Air America days, Lawrence, Joy, Jen, Chris. electric_blue68 Nov 22 #69

It will continue to be so. Whether SpinCo will be offered on cable is unclear, however. ancianita Nov 22 #78

"...one giant circle jerk and echo chamber." SpankMe Nov 21 #20

They're priming us for their move to the "center" (aka the right) choie Nov 21 #41

I love Rachel and I agree that she's the best in the business FakeNoose Nov 21 #32

Wrong. The Grand Illuminist Nov 22 #65

Exhausting and depressing content, was a daily listener for a decade lostnfound Nov 22 #75

Harris Propaganda???? WTF is that??? Jeezus H Krist. tulipsandroses Nov 21 #33

"If MSNBC wants to be of service to its viewers, they can't keep them in fantasy land." MichMan Nov 21 #36

MSNBC viewers are well educated and well informed. spooky3 Nov 21 #50

Haven't watched since the election Deminpenn Nov 21 #37

Hopefully. Rachel can keep MSNBC alive LetMyPeopleVote Nov 21 #51

Integrity JR11 Nov 21 #54

Maybe she got some stock options in the deal... (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 21 #56

29 million too much! uncledad Nov 21 #59

The only MSNBC show I would see as suffering is Morning Joe. I can't believe that MSNBC regular Jit423 Nov 22 #60

Seriously, if THIS is how MSNBC is going to address their falling ratings...FUCK EM! TrollBuster9090 Nov 22 #63

at least Ed found himself a warm home with Putin in his final few years. thebigidea Nov 22 #74

Yikes, you're right about Ed Schultz Mike 03 Nov 22 #77

Yeah. Hadn't caught him after Air America. Was also shocked after he died to hear that he'd turned into a Trumper! electric_blue68 Nov 22 #90

Where MSNBC went wrong Deminpenn Nov 22 #76

If MSNBC needs to save money, let them get rid of Ari Melber. Paladin Nov 22 #80

MSNBC is partly responsible for the loss. everyonematters Nov 22 #81

So why can't the rich corporation who owns them pony up some money. travelingthrulife Nov 22 #85

Dear people: is this yet another case where the only true progressive is one who wears sackcloth? Hekate Nov 22 #87

MSNBC must stay on air. There are so few reliable source of info onetexan Nov 22 #88

How much of a pay cut did Joe & Mika give up? nt Hotler Nov 23 #94