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Lonestarblue

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6. Demographically speaking, this news is terrible for the future of the US.
Sat Nov 30, 2024, 02:46 PM
Nov 30

It is Democratic women who are choosing not to have children, while many Republican women are choosing to have more children. Imagine a decade during which fewer children are being raised with democratic values and more children are being raised with racism, bigotry, and misogyny. We are already divided as a nation, with about a 50-50 split. If many liberals choose not to have children, those who want a totalitarian Christian nation will have a much larger majority in not so many years.

From The Guardian:

“Like developed countries around the world, the United States is in the midst of a fertility slump. In 2023, the US fertility rate fell by 3% and reached a historic low.

But this decline is not evenly distributed across the political spectrum. After Trump won the presidency in 2016, births in Republican-leaning counties rose sharply compared to those that leaned Democratic. Today, Democrats are likelier than Republicans to be childfree – a trend that, the Washington Post has hypothesized, is likely also related to the rightward drift of big-family white Protestants.

That the outcome of the 2024 election has spurred such fear and hesitation around having children is apt – not only are US political parties on diverging paths when it comes to babies, but the election itself was in many ways a referendum on families and fertility. While Kamala Harris made support for abortion rights a key plank in her platform, Donald Trump promised “baby booms” and pledged to give people “baby bonuses”. Trump’s vice-president-elect, JD Vance, has built his political brand on pronatalism, a movement that urges people to have babies to benefit the greater good. Vance has a track record of deriding “childless cat ladies” and raising the alarm about the US fertility rate.

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M, a Texan mother of three who asked to go by her first initial because she feels stigmatized for voting for Trump, hopes that Trump’s victory will improve the economy to the point that she and her husband can afford to have a fourth child.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/30/family-planning-trump

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I can't blame them. CousinIT Nov 30 #1
Time for guys to step up. multigraincracker Nov 30 #2
Except that they're also going after IVF. nt BWdem4life Nov 30 #9
Yes, and women can't afford to count on men tor something this vitally important. ShazzieB Nov 30 #18
Except that it won't be a solution in all situations. liberalla Nov 30 #21
One reason I got sterilized was because multigraincracker Dec 1 #55
I read recently that vasectomies were up 1200%. travelingthrulife Dec 1 #50
Unfortunately this option removes all choices Marthe48 Nov 30 #3
I have that book and BlueSky3 Nov 30 #30
The birth rate under Trump will plunge bucolic_frolic Nov 30 #4
Yup, the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the forced-birthers want..... AZ8theist Nov 30 #19
Even if these women weren't poor BlueSky3 Nov 30 #31
I never did understand how they were going to get their desired white babies out travelingthrulife Dec 1 #53
Reich Wing INCELS are salivating over that possibility...... AZ8theist Dec 1 #58
Not to mention the costs, the fear of gun murders Marthe48 Nov 30 #32
Source: Newsweek FredGarvin Nov 30 #5
The other choice includes risks they may not be willing to take. paleotn Nov 30 #14
They interviewed, what, five women? And that makes this ... reACTIONary Nov 30 #42
Troll, ignorant, or both? raising2moredems Nov 30 #43
claiming asylum in a social democratic country is the first option -- but sterilization is a rational alternative cadoman Dec 1 #48
You must be male to not understand this problem. travelingthrulife Dec 1 #51
Demographically speaking, this news is terrible for the future of the US. Lonestarblue Nov 30 #6
that woman in TX should feel stigmatized IzzaNuDay Nov 30 #7
Must be a feature, not a bug... more Republican babies. nt BWdem4life Nov 30 #10
You're 100% those kids will turn out exactly like their parents? paleotn Nov 30 #17
I agree.. raising2moredems Nov 30 #44
The smart people not breeding is how the movie Idiocracy started NickB79 Nov 30 #26
More Republican children doesn't necessarily mean more potential Presidential candidates. Aristus Nov 30 #40
this is why maintaining the DoE is so critical cadoman Dec 1 #54
Isn't that a bit radical? Having them tied is reversible. malthaussen Nov 30 #8
Absolutely, it is a radical choice that forecloses on future conception. harumph Nov 30 #11
While still extremely reliable, Ursus Arctos Nov 30 #15
Also, IUD will csuse ectopic pregnancy BonnieJW Nov 30 #33
Thank you for that Ursus Arctos Nov 30 #38
Is Rebl2 Nov 30 #25
Familial example: coffeenap Dec 1 #49
I tried to have it done in my twenties Demobrat Nov 30 #12
I had the same Ursus Arctos Nov 30 #16
Had a friend Rebl2 Nov 30 #27
I wanted a tubal Karma13612 Dec 1 #59
I would be curious to know Demobrat Dec 1 #60
I agree.👍 eom Karma13612 Dec 1 #61
Ensure their reproductive rights?? DFW Nov 30 #13
Poorly worded, but I took it to mean Demobrat Nov 30 #28
28 and 39 years old. Mature women. I found some interesting information about the options chowder66 Nov 30 #20
Can't blame them is right. The Dark Ages are back. Evolve Dammit Nov 30 #22
BumRushDaShow.......... Upthevibe Nov 30 #23
Sorry to hear about your travails BumRushDaShow Nov 30 #24
I was always afraid of IUDs. Demobrat Nov 30 #29
Well, they can also move to another state that protects women's health and parental rights FakeNoose Nov 30 #34
For now they can move.. within a year, i suspect it will be mostly banned everywhere. Nt lostnfound Nov 30 #35
SCOTUS already ruled that it's up to each state to decide for ourselves FakeNoose Nov 30 #37
They aren't done... Ursus Arctos Nov 30 #39
You really think it ends there? ForgoTheConsequence Dec 1 #62
If you think the christofascists don't plan to take this shit nationally travelingthrulife Dec 1 #52
If sterilization rates do go up the Rethugs will find a way to make it either an avebury Nov 30 #36
Doesn't make sense in a blue state madville Nov 30 #41
'Nothing will be done to limit options' in blue states Unwind Your Mind Dec 1 #45
Have you ever traveled to eastern Washington? travelingthrulife Dec 1 #56
Are you female? I only ask because as an older female TBF Dec 1 #57
I wish I lived in your world. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 1 #63
It does not resolve the people who voted Trump in office living in our heads rent free. The Grand Illuminist Dec 1 #46
Someone that age very close to me coffeenap Dec 1 #47
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