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Self Esteem

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31. There are only two realistic options and both are unlikely.
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 04:16 PM
Mar 30

The first is the option floated in the article: run as Vance's running mate, Vance resigns and he assumes the presidency. This is probably the most realistic only because the language in the Constitution leads an opening. In the 22nd Amendment, it stipulates: No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice....

The term elected is important because in this scenario, Trump technically isn't being elected to the office of President, but rather the office of Vice President. It's definitely exploiting the language of the amendment but I wouldn't trust the Supreme Court to uphold the intent of it.

But Ford was an unelected president.

Its relationship with the 12th Amendment, which defines who is constitutionally eligible for the office, would surely be where this battle would be fought in such scenario.

I'm not convinced the Court wouldn't rule in Trump's favor if that's the path he takes.

The other option is just running anyway and daring the courts to stop him. My guess is that the courts would rule he's ineligible but then what? It seems most Republicans will blindly support him. If the Court rules in early 2028 he's not eligible, the party can still make him their nominee. It then falls to the states to ban him from the ballot. I'm guessing every blue state will but what about Republican states or states with Republican legislatures? Will they vote to put him on the ballot and if there's enough for 270 electoral votes... what happens next?

The Courts can rule. Democrats can sue. Hell, Chief Justice Roberts could refuse the oath be given... it would throw the country into a legit constitutional crisis and Democrats couldn't even toss the electors of states that voted Trump without a majority in both the House and Senate (in order to toss electoral votes, during the certification, an objection must have both a signature of a House and Senate member before they debate and then vote as separate bodies and at that time, a majority must be reached in both chambers to toss the electoral votes) - or they'd have to hope for a good amount of cross-over votes but I'm not sure they could (and it's not a good bet that the Democrats have a majority in the Senate by January, 2029 but maybe).

Regardless, that last option is the messiest. So, I'm inclined to believe they'll aim for the first if they choose.

Of course, the cleanest is the most unlikely: just repeal the 22nd but the votes aren't there for that.

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As many on Bluesky have said: choie Mar 30 #1
A toadying GOP rep who introduced a bill to let a president serve a third term specifically excluded highplainsdem Mar 30 #7
Doing what they do best...wasting time & money NotHardly Mar 30 #21
obama? DonCoquixote Mar 30 #11
I used to joke about that Hieronymus Phact Mar 30 #15
and a box of Cigars! DonCoquixote Mar 30 #20
Obama has no interest in running or doing anything beyond the bare minimum every four years. Self Esteem Mar 30 #23
"A lot of people want me to do it" dweller Mar 30 #2
Now That's the Truth (!!!) wyn borkins Mar 30 #60
We're on to your game Diaper Don. johnnyfins Mar 30 #3
There certainly is one method that's 100% true Polybius Mar 30 #4
He's saying this so he won't seem like a lame duck. Intractable Mar 30 #5
Healthwise, he's not up for this one BonnieJW Mar 30 #25
But, but Biden was too old!! n/t the nelm Mar 30 #49
In your dreams, Donnie! ProudMNDemocrat Mar 30 #6
King Donald..... SergeStorms Monday #70
Guess it's never occurred to him that if he managed to get that legalized somehow, he would be creamed by Obama. Vinca Mar 30 #8
Evidently not - see comment #7 TommyT139 Mar 30 #47
He's 78 and fading fast NickB79 Mar 30 #9
Yes... to everyone but him. n/t Harker Mar 30 #18
Don't forget Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, etc. He doesn't drink and so far seems cogent (in relative terms)..... Evolve Dammit Mar 30 #34
He is already homegirl Mar 30 #41
He leaves the White House for good on or before 1/20/2029...... lastlib Mar 30 #10
And there are alternative ways to MAKE Captain Zero Mar 30 #54
Of course, gotta keep the grift going JoseBalow Mar 30 #12
In Trump's fried and senile little mind.... Escape Mar 30 #13
Dang, I'd like to see him run the Derby! tanyev Mar 30 #57
Damn, you beat me to it! robbob Mar 30 #66
Trump may try the Executive Order route, after all he has directly challenged the 14th amendment, why not the 22nd andym Mar 30 #14
Just more Abstractartist Mar 30 #16
It's 50/50 probability he will try to run again. Irish_Dem Mar 30 #17
Against Obama. tavernier Mar 30 #22
Pay per view. Now that would get him real ratings. Ali vs. an out-of-shape White Hope. Sting like a bee. n/t Evolve Dammit Mar 30 #37
Obama isn't going to run. He's completely checked out. Self Esteem Mar 30 #59
There is absolutely ZERO chance he will try to run again. Wiz Imp Mar 30 #44
This is just whistling past the graveyard. Self Esteem Mar 30 #61
Ha ha. Sure Trump will follow the laws and constitution. Irish_Dem Mar 30 #67
I think Satan would have brought him home by then. Joinfortmill Mar 30 #19
Don the Distractor. Squirrel! bronxiteforever Mar 30 #24
"a lot of people would like me to" Yeah? Name them. Grins Mar 30 #26
Yes, homegirl Mar 30 #42
His rube supporters would be delighted. Turbineguy Mar 30 #27
Oh but according to some people on another thread.... AkFemDem Mar 30 #28
He really cares naught for the Constitution. AllyCat Mar 30 #29
It worked for Putin. Bluetus Mar 30 #30
12th Amendment Bluetus Monday #69
There are only two realistic options and both are unlikely. Self Esteem Mar 30 #31
Him running as VP wouldn't work either. The VP has to be ready to assume the presidentcy PortTack Mar 30 #33
I explained why it could work. Self Esteem Mar 30 #43
Trump still insists he WAS elected in 2020. DFW Mar 30 #52
Thanks for the laugh WA-03 Democrat Mar 30 #53
He thinks he hasn't had enough headlines today. Klarkashton Mar 30 #32
"Unconstitutional" doesn't mean shit to this administration. Karasu Mar 30 #35
So that means rambler_american Mar 30 #36
iNQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW homegirl Mar 30 #38
All 3 claudette Mar 30 #40
There are not claudette Mar 30 #39
Illegal president mac56 Mar 30 #45
These lines subg by liberalhistorian Mar 30 #46
The other method he refused to explain is dictator for life. Martin Eden Mar 30 #48
His simplest method is to... WestMichRad Mar 30 #50
I'd like T*ump to be in prison for a third term. COL Mustard Mar 30 #51
This wannabe king thinks he can use a similar dodge as Putin did in Russia. Eugene Mar 30 #55
Don't fall for another one of his distractions jgmiller Mar 30 #56
When does it start being real then? Self Esteem Mar 30 #58
My point is there are plenty of things now to go after him for jgmiller Mar 30 #62
I feel he's doing this now to exactly pacify us to the idea. Self Esteem Mar 30 #65
LOL. No kidding! ANYTHING to bury the signalgate story. PSPS Mar 30 #64
Tamping down the third term hype for Trump LetMyPeopleVote Mar 30 #63
Really need his Big Mac diet to activate. EllieBC Mar 30 #68
KnR Hekate Monday #71
MaddowBlog-Despite the Constitution, Trump says he's 'not joking' about eyeing a third term LetMyPeopleVote Monday #72
I also doubt that trump will be around for a third term LetMyPeopleVote Monday #73
If Obama won't run. . . Collimator Tuesday #74
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