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55. Mail Boxes are not public domain,,,,,,,,

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Snowden: NSA employees routinely pass around intercepted nude photos [View all] jayfish Jul 2014 OP

How are DU's NSA-defenders going to spin this one? Dopers_Greed Jul 2014 #1

It might take a while;... jayfish Jul 2014 #2

"Snowden violated people's privacy by looking at their nude bodies" n2doc Jul 2014 #4

we don't need to spin he is a tool and a fool snooper2 Jul 2014 #18

Actually they do enlist them right out of High School fasttense Jul 2014 #24

I Can't Believe billhicks76 Jul 2014 #43

Hmmm... the fact is you don't what NSA does in the vast majority of cases. They serve a very... Adrahil Jul 2014 #79

Whatever billhicks76 Jul 2014 #137

Well, sort of. olddad56 Jul 2014 #179

Like 18 Year Olds billhicks76 Jul 2014 #41

OK, Let me give it a try.... PosterChild Jul 2014 #46

You can't do all those things but... JackRiddler Jul 2014 #52

Sorry, but... PosterChild Jul 2014 #135

Who is this "We"? JackRiddler Jul 2014 #142

By "We" I mean "We the People"... PosterChild Jul 2014 #144

You don't speak for "We the People," sir. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #145

I didn't say... PosterChild Jul 2014 #146

Most Americans Now Oppose NSA Program JackRiddler Jul 2014 #149

Polls are very important... PosterChild Jul 2014 #152

Your argument can be used to justify anything... JackRiddler Jul 2014 #153

I'm not "blaming the people"... PosterChild Jul 2014 #170

Very good, at last. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #173

Yes, law enforcement typically 'justifies' itself by doing the job they were established to do. randome Jul 2014 #178

CIA has nothing to do with law enforcement. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #180

Sorry, but I aways speak... PosterChild Jul 2014 #190

It is not "our" nation, sir. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #191

I didn't say anything about... PosterChild Jul 2014 #211

Basically the neo-con justification for U.S. imperialism. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #212

The difference being Joe Turner Jul 2014 #54

NSA spying... PosterChild Jul 2014 #136

70's anecdotes aside...... DeSwiss Jul 2014 #63

Proof of what? PosterChild Jul 2014 #134

They may be following internet sex rings or pedophiles. kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #70

Snowden is far more credible than the NSA. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #99

+1000 LiberalLovinLug Jul 2014 #110

Why? Where did he work? What did he do? Where is he now?l nt kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #155

Have you read Greenwald's book, No Place to Hide? JDPriestly Jul 2014 #177

He was an IT guy AnnieBW Jul 2014 #207

Don't EVEN try that one Aerows Jul 2014 #120

That's not their job. JoeyT Jul 2014 #182

You believe it just because Eddie said it? treestar Jul 2014 #157

Simple tymorial Jul 2014 #174

Here's what is simple ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #181

"...his comments that SS recipients are parasites...." candelista Jul 2014 #203

Snowden posted regularly ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #204

Obviously he changed his mind... candelista Jul 2014 #205

Not really, people always have the "It can't happen to me" mentality cbdo2007 Jul 2014 #3

"It's easy to believe that someone's gonna light the fuse jayfish Jul 2014 #5

There it is... Dopers_Greed Jul 2014 #11

But if you're a politician and your kid does ... Babel_17 Jul 2014 #16

Snowden : "young men working for NSA behave in manner to be expected of a hedgehog Jul 2014 #6

Still amazed at how naive some are Cryptoad Jul 2014 #7

Ah, the old "There's no expectation of privacy on the Internet, so why worry?" argument... klook Jul 2014 #10

Why they are looking at them has nothing to do with the Fact,, Cryptoad Jul 2014 #13

So can I read your emails then? zeemike Jul 2014 #14

Well I am surely not going to pretend Cryptoad Jul 2014 #17

Remember how they used to have to get a warrant klook Jul 2014 #19

Well it was rhetorical zeemike Jul 2014 #21

talk about rolling over LiberalLovinLug Jul 2014 #112

My house is not Pulic domain Cryptoad Jul 2014 #116

Its the next step LiberalLovinLug Jul 2014 #168

I call this pathetic defense, "Third Way blase," woo me with science Jul 2014 #28

And as usual you are right, and right on top of it. zeemike Jul 2014 #30

That thread was "mind blowing," indeed. woo me with science Jul 2014 #36

Aptly named! Pholus Jul 2014 #37

Stupid Argument billhicks76 Jul 2014 #44

Mail Boxes are not public domain,,,,,,,, Cryptoad Jul 2014 #55

What!?! billhicks76 Jul 2014 #68

You are the one who brought up the subject of Mailboxes comparisons ,,,,, Cryptoad Jul 2014 #88

So then it's A-OK if the postal carrier opens your mail and reads it? Sirveri Jul 2014 #98

Seriously Cryptoad Jul 2014 #117

I don't think they do, the SCOTUS confirmed that they do. Sirveri Jul 2014 #121

You need to source your comment Cryptoad Jul 2014 #126

Your email, I was talking about your email, but I'm sure you knew that. Sirveri Jul 2014 #133

Dont Waste Your Time With This One billhicks76 Jul 2014 #139

Wrong billhicks76 Jul 2014 #138

Nor are e-mail boxes that not only have names on them but JDPriestly Jul 2014 #109

"email boxes" Cryptoad Jul 2014 #118

Tell that to the pharmaceutical companies, the airplane JDPriestly Jul 2014 #106

and all those thingys you Cryptoad Jul 2014 #119

While I don't approve of unprofessional, juvenile behavior of analysts... Adrahil Jul 2014 #80

True that.. Cryptoad Jul 2014 #89

A password proves, in my opinion, the intention that the information JDPriestly Jul 2014 #113

you are talking Cryptoad Jul 2014 #123

You have tremendous patience. woo me with science Jul 2014 #154

Do you think that abusing their position of trust and authority is okay? neverforget Jul 2014 #31

Who Are You? billhicks76 Jul 2014 #40

The slashed GOP may very well be an accurate representation of their sentiment. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #49

I agree billhicks76 Jul 2014 #66

Is this a Purity Test? Cryptoad Jul 2014 #129

Nope billhicks76 Jul 2014 #140

test me to stonecutter357 Jul 2014 #194

Is this suppose to be an insult? Cryptoad Jul 2014 #127

Internet is not a public domain. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #101

Manage a 45,000 node network Aerows Jul 2014 #122

I never claimed it was ethical Cryptoad Jul 2014 #128

Excusing it Aerows Jul 2014 #130

I was not Cryptoad Jul 2014 #131

And why would the NSA have nude photos? treestar Jul 2014 #158

Do you Reckon,,,, Cryptoad Jul 2014 #193

. stonecutter357 Jul 2014 #195

Steganography - Financing Other Activities AnnieBW Jul 2014 #206

Is this really what you want from your government? raindaddy Jul 2014 #192

I want my Gubermint Cryptoad Jul 2014 #196

Whether our Gov... Is violating the Constitution is a different argument. raindaddy Jul 2014 #197

your argument is circular Cryptoad Jul 2014 #199

Of course they can be separate arguments raindaddy Jul 2014 #201

Gee, who could have predicted this? nt bemildred Jul 2014 #8

Well of course they do. bluedigger Jul 2014 #9

I guess all the hot girls who took selfies with their smart phones OnyxCollie Jul 2014 #12

Sarcasm aside, no, most of them didn't. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #29

Former girlfriend ... plus her current boyfriend? Babel_17 Jul 2014 #15

Yep and I would be more worried about them. zeemike Jul 2014 #32

Talk about a mind-boggler..... Doc Holliday Jul 2014 #105

I think he's full of shit. n/t lamp_shade Jul 2014 #20

Absolutely, the NSA has policies to ensure this crap doesn't happen mindwalker_i Jul 2014 #27

And we have a secret court to protect our secrets. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #50

Yeah, isn't that great? mindwalker_i Jul 2014 #53

...but it is only the meta-data. bvar22 Jul 2014 #22

Prediction 90-percent Jul 2014 #23

I doubt you would ever see that released to the public. zeemike Jul 2014 #34

Any naked pictures of Dianne Feinstein in a sexually compromising position..... DeSwiss Jul 2014 #67

Imagine what the bosses pass around. Octafish Jul 2014 #25

The floating castles remind me of that old Star Trek episode, "The Cloud Minders" aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #62

I identified with the Troglytes in that one. Octafish Jul 2014 #90

Serve 'em right if they see one of me. riqster Jul 2014 #26

Ha ha ha. Government abuse of power against Americans is such a laugh riot. woo me with science Jul 2014 #35

Gallows humor. Look it up. riqster Jul 2014 #39

Well, if they haul you in on terrorism charges, we'll know why. winter is coming Jul 2014 #65

Insofar as I am aware, no such photos exist. riqster Jul 2014 #82

Coming soon: NSA employees create next "October Surprise" Pholus Jul 2014 #33

Now You Are Thinking billhicks76 Jul 2014 #45

You mean the NSA might collect info on Democratic politicians OnyxCollie Jul 2014 #48

What could he do that couldn't be undone EXCEPT... Pholus Jul 2014 #72

He could have started by replacing all the US Attorneys in 2009 (like Clinton did.) OnyxCollie Jul 2014 #92

K&R woo me with science Jul 2014 #38

unlikely given the number of authoritarians and badge sniffers..... blackspade Jul 2014 #42

Snowden has finally come full circle. randome Jul 2014 #47

So it's okay for the NSA to abuse their power, authority and trust? neverforget Jul 2014 #51

No, it's not okay. From the very start, all we've needed is some evidence. randome Jul 2014 #71

We haven't needed evidence nearly so much as we have needed honesty. Pholus Jul 2014 #73

They're a spy agency. Of course they have secrets. randome Jul 2014 #75

Well I presume to. They have no baseline for trust. Pholus Jul 2014 #84

Right. Because when the NSA learns of something illegal, they should simply sit on it. randome Jul 2014 #97

You sure dropped "The NSA doesn't spy on Americans" quickly enough... Pholus Jul 2014 #102

I've come to the conclusion Aerows Jul 2014 #125

Seems to be the takeaway. Sadly. Pholus Jul 2014 #185

I've stood in that fire, randome Aerows Jul 2014 #186

In this case, the 'right thing' to do is to share evidence about illegality. randome Jul 2014 #189

Because Eddie said so and you choose to ignore US case law. nt treestar Jul 2014 #161

Objection. NSA has a longer history of ignoring said laws. Pholus Jul 2014 #171

We are talking about THIS case. treestar Jul 2014 #172

So, summarizing. You think it's unfair the NSA is held accountable for their crap but Pholus Jul 2014 #183

So Greenwald, Poitras, the NYT, the Guardian - the documents they have from Snowden aren't evidence? riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #83

Of course those documents are evidence. randome Jul 2014 #86

Falling back on "its not illegal!11!!!!11" meme... riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #87

Oh, jeeze. randome Jul 2014 #96

No, but if Eddie said they did, it would become gospel! nt treestar Jul 2014 #160

Who said that? treestar Jul 2014 #159

Oh, he's got the proof. NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #56

Duh. Try reading the excerpt in the OP above. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2014 #57

Already read it. Duh. NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #58

No proof beats demonstrable lies any day of the week. Pholus Jul 2014 #85

Snowden has been charged under the Espionage Act ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #100

I like how you try to frame it -- "Believing." Pholus Jul 2014 #104

The point being ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #107

Nope, but when my taxes are funding one of the liars... Pholus Jul 2014 #184

I should not have started with ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #187

That's okay. It was obvious this thread was not your best work. Pholus Jul 2014 #188

There is enough proof of that to place the charges treestar Jul 2014 #164

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #69

And similarly people like yourself immediately discount it. Bonobo Jul 2014 #59

Oh, I am not surprised by that at all. NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #60

There definitely is more than a bit of irony in that 'skepticism' thing, yes. Bonobo Jul 2014 #61

Understood. NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #64

But he has provided proof of his allegations unless you think Greenwald, Poitras, the NYT, riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #81

Snowden's allegations ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #103

You are. You specifically said he is making allegations without providing proof riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #111

He alleged that he could ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #114

Have you seen the proof that the NSA is surveilling American citizens? riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #115

You still have your head in 2007, huh? randome Jul 2014 #132

Have I seen the proof that ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #141

"Its just metadata" has been thoroughly debunked. Do try to keep up. riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #147

So now pointing out ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #148

Not only do they immediately accept it, they parry any questions with treestar Jul 2014 #167

Then it would happen anywhere treestar Jul 2014 #166

His word has become gospel treestar Jul 2014 #162

At the rate these 'pronouncements' are going ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #176

your internet provider, cell phone service, messageboard owners can too. so whats new? Sunlei Jul 2014 #74

Skinner has nude photos of us? Renew Deal Jul 2014 #76

if YOU sent them in 'private messages' all admin can see and read everything. Sunlei Jul 2014 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Jul 2014 #93

Unfathomably naive post. Deliberately missing the point, I hope, woo me with science Jul 2014 #94

I understand. For example the millions of files Snowden stole. A lot of 'someones' will be Sunlei Jul 2014 #95

Manning said they played video games all day.management in our Federal agencies should be fired. Sunlei Jul 2014 #78

They are welcome to my live stream inner bowl toilet cam. L0oniX Jul 2014 #91

Snowden picked quite a country to hide in... Imajika Jul 2014 #108

I hope he feels proud of his patrons AnnieBW Jul 2014 #209

Do these allegations suggest that Trillo Jul 2014 #124

So what was Mr. Whistleblower doing when this was going on? Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #143

Probably in the mens' room wacking off George II Jul 2014 #151

good point treestar Jul 2014 #163

And....whatever you do...don't post pic of your cute kid KoKo Jul 2014 #150

Well guys will be guys. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2014 #156

He can "live with" going to Gitmo? treestar Jul 2014 #165

Because of course they do. n/t DirkGently Jul 2014 #169

It doesn't happen... hughee99 Jul 2014 #175

.. NorthCarolina Jul 2014 #202

And the TSA looks at your junk in the security line. 6000eliot Jul 2014 #198

The naivete in this thread is beyond belief. BlueCheese Jul 2014 #200

Ever hear of Steganography? AnnieBW Jul 2014 #208

If people were being disciplined for it, it wouldn't have been "routine", would it? hughee99 Jul 2014 #210