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45. A valid concern

Fri Feb 13, 2015, 11:48 AM

Feb 2015

and one I share as I have a father who was disabled due to his service in the Vietnam war. He was a young man (enlisted at 17 with parental signature) and managed to work 15 years in a factory after his military service before giving in to retirement. At the end he could only drive forklift as his disabilities worsened - but he was proud to be able to do that as long as he did.

I talk about the Venus Project a fair amount in here because it's one of the models that focuses on distribution of resources as needed. That seems like a far better system given the environmental challenges we are facing. We are literally destroying the planet in our quest for profit. Any new system I'd design would eliminate currency completely.

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A City Where Everyone Works, There Is No Police, And The Salary Is 1200 Euros [View all] Starry Messenger Feb 2015 OP

Families that only have to pay 19 dollars a month could really create strong families. I love this midnight Feb 2015 #1

The Basque region in Spain also has the . . . brush Feb 2015 #17

I wish I spoke spanish. There are some good links to the Montdragon system. midnight Feb 2015 #24

K&R! Phlem Feb 2015 #2

One can hardly even fathom this...amazing social system. libdem4life Feb 2015 #3

Amazing underpants Feb 2015 #4

Very nice ornotna Feb 2015 #5

2067 sq ft, to put it in units that most here could visualize more easily Electric Monk Feb 2015 #12

Just found out yesterday that ... aggiesal Feb 2015 #25

The basement sleepers were in a firetrap. Housing codes would never allow that now. n/t pnwmom Feb 2015 #34

i like this . allan01 Feb 2015 #6

Like the Movie It's A Wonderful Live project_bluebook Feb 2015 #7

, blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #8

K&R. Glad to hear it. Overseas Feb 2015 #9

Great post Omaha Steve Feb 2015 #10

k and a most heartfelt r--there is hope. niyad Feb 2015 #11

If you can get broadband there, I'd consider it for my retirement. (n/t) Jim Lane Feb 2015 #13

Only 40 miles from Malaga/ Costa Del Sol, 1 of 10 best cities to retire ErikJ Feb 2015 #29

So Malaga $950/month, Marinaleda $19/month? Jim Lane Feb 2015 #38

Well, if rent is just slightly over one percent of your income-- eridani Feb 2015 #14

K & R ctsnowman Feb 2015 #15

I wonder how many of them go to war to fight for the wealth of the .01%. nt valerief Feb 2015 #16

I'll bet the citizens are healthier too because of less stress world wide wally Feb 2015 #18

Where's the Libertarian example? Texano78704 Feb 2015 #19

Here's a more detailed article on the same village: TinkerTot55 Feb 2015 #20

The last time the Spanish people tried this Franco killed them. Buenaventura Feb 2015 #21

Yeah, don't think that the Kochs or Bushes would tolerate that here either. lark Feb 2015 #22

Communism – In the heart of America?!? ErikJ Feb 2015 #23

As far as I can tell... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #27

I toured a Hutterite farm in east Washington state once ErikJ Feb 2015 #30

That's definitely a relevant quote... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #33

Wow...societies and governments everywhere... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #26

I like the system as far as it goes but I cannot help but ask: where are the disabled and elderly? jwirr Feb 2015 #28

there are some elderly shaayecanaan Feb 2015 #35

The fact that only one person per household is allowed to work would allow for taking care of jwirr Feb 2015 #36

it was the real world for all of human history shaayecanaan Feb 2015 #40

Oh that is why I was interested in the first place but then I read how they are not interested in jwirr Feb 2015 #43

commies........you're all a bunch of commies.... Adam051188 Feb 2015 #31

Uhhhmmm...yeah. ret5hd Feb 2015 #32

I just got home from a day away at a conference. Starry Messenger Feb 2015 #37

When I feel depressed about the world vive la commune Feb 2015 #39

I didn't think it was stupid when I posted it TBF Feb 2015 #41

I was lucky the title was already written on the site I got this from. Starry Messenger Feb 2015 #42

I do like this element of the experiment. As I have posted before it does not take into account the jwirr Feb 2015 #44

A valid concern TBF Feb 2015 #45

The distribution of resources in our future is another reason to look at these models. jwirr Feb 2015 #46