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xocetaceans

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19. Ok, I get frustration...
Wed May 4, 2022, 11:48 PM
May 2022

..., and, yes, there are definite intrusions upon a person's rights that should not be tolerated in our society.
There are injustices, as well.

MA is Massachusetts, and ME is Maine, but that's beside the point.

Ideally, the parents should have been called.
(What the actual policies in the US are is unclear, so I don't know if it is required in the exact situation in the video.)

Chances are the teachers and the police are somewhat aware of what they can do - this could be wildly wrong, though. There seems to be ample evidence on video of police claiming all sorts of rights that they just do not have. The relative percentage of knowledgeable officers versus unknowing officers is unclear.

IF the search were in fact justified by law, the kid should have complied. (This is a point that I'll leave open to you. I get the ideal of the absolute inviolability of one's personal space and belongings (not that this is what you are arguing), but whatever form that takes under the 4th Amendment is unclear to me. If I am wrong, let me know someday.)

Clearly, what happened to George Floyd was absolutely wrong.

Yes, there was no firearm - nor do I believe that it was stated that there was one in the video. It was so in that textual excerpt, but that was a separately cited case. So, I am not sure where the officer lied in the video.

Anyway, I'll just leave it at that. If I am actually incorrect in my take, feel free to correct me in the future. I'll listen.

we are a long way from Sheriff Taylor (Andy Griffith). lapfog_1 May 2022 #1
Oh no. When I went to school big male teachers would ram kids into lockers. LakeArenal May 2022 #2
Doesn't make it right Jilly_in_VA May 2022 #13
Not saying it's right. Saying there's bullies in every profession. LakeArenal May 2022 #16
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Are we being sarcastic? Miguelito Loveless May 2022 #4
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IMO this was excessive force by a cop, and a pitiful adult who instead of... brush May 2022 #6
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If noting that the kid's 4th Amendment rights were being violated by the cop... brush May 2022 #10
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Yes, there were no drugs found. (See post #12.) xocetaceans May 2022 #14
FOURTH AMENDMENT. The kid's right was violated and he sensed it even if he... brush May 2022 #15
You may be correct. However, this analysis seems to oppose your argument... xocetaceans May 2022 #17
The state of Maine is it? And parents should not have been.. brush May 2022 #18
Ok, I get frustration... xocetaceans May 2022 #19
The officer lied that he smelled pot coming from... brush May 2022 #20
I see what you are saying. xocetaceans May 2022 #29
No longer interested. The parents should've been called... brush May 2022 #30
Ok, I was just trying to acknowledge your position out of respect and not ignore you. xocetaceans May 2022 #31
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What are you going on about? The cop lied, there was... brush May 2022 #22
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It's not complicated. The cop lied, there was no pot... brush May 2022 #24
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Please, no one demonized all cops. The cop in the video... brush May 2022 #26
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I don't resort to insults. I just state the facts. brush May 2022 #28
In watching the video, the kid refused to be searched and decided to struggle against it. xocetaceans May 2022 #7
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See post 5. The cop was abusive and lied as no drugs were found. brush May 2022 #12
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