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T_i_B

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5. From all that, it's difficult to know who to blame more....
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 12:52 AM
Jul 2018

For the totally unrealistic and un-negotiable position the Government finds itself in over the EU negotiations.

Brexshitters like to claim betrayal at the first sign of compromise, but the real betrayal is the failure of their own leaders. Rushing to trigger article 50 without proper preparation was a terrible decision. A decision made because the government is afraid to tell Leave voters uncomfortable truths about what this whole ludicrous charade actually entails.

And that's before we get to the botched general election campaign (David Davis bears some responsibility for pushing for an unnecessary snap election) or the government's consistently unrealistic negotiating position, not helped by a failure by many leavers to acknowledge what a weak negotiating position Britain is in with all this.

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The Independent's now updating its story: Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #1
May must make the case for patriotism. Eyeball_Kid Jul 2018 #27
And another one's going: Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #2
Davis's resignation letter: Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #3
And May's reply: Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #4
From all that, it's difficult to know who to blame more.... T_i_B Jul 2018 #5
Agree on all points LeftishBrit Jul 2018 #6
Commiserations on having President Fart nearby this week T_i_B Jul 2018 #17
Quite a lot of us were there to express our views on having him in our backyard! LeftishBrit Jul 2018 #24
I support the anti-Trump protestors even more now.... T_i_B Jul 2018 #25
My reading is that May finally realized that the only way out of the years-long impasse Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #8
From a distance, seems to me it all began with Cameron. Matilda Jul 2018 #23
Steve Baker and Suella Braverman have also resigned LeftishBrit Jul 2018 #7
Johnson finally resigns! Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #9
Good riddance, except that he may now seek the keys to No. 10 and ultra-hard Brexit LeftishBrit Jul 2018 #10
The thought of Boris as PM obviously isn't one I'm keen on. Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #11
I think that although opinion polls would want a GE I doubt the Tories would listen Soph0571 Jul 2018 #12
One name being mentioned as Foreign Secretary on social media at the moment is Gove. Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #13
I think he would fly to take that job Soph0571 Jul 2018 #14
I suspect he'd do his damnedest to sprout wings if he could! Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #15
Oh, and this is fun: Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #16
I checked oddschecker for who was favourite as new Foreign Secretary. "Tristram Hunt", strangely muriel_volestrangler Jul 2018 #18
The bookies, for once, don't seem to have any more of a clue than the rest of us: Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #20
It's Jeremy H*nt T_i_B Jul 2018 #21
If Labour win a general election and get saddled with this mess.... T_i_B Jul 2018 #19
So now Jeremy Rhyming-Slang will be Foreign Secretary LeftishBrit Jul 2018 #22
One thing worrying me about Boris Johnson is his ambition. calimary Jul 2018 #26
I think he will be pontificating for the Telegraph again. T_i_B Jul 2018 #28
Indeed, having had to give up his Telegraph column when he became Home Secretary, Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #29
Add this to the list: Denzil_DC Jul 2018 #30
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