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muriel_volestrangler

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14. Johnson is back to herd immunity through infection, under cover of a "summer firebreak"
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 09:04 AM
Jul 2021
According to PA, Boris Johnson described summer as a “firebreak” allowing a reopening now, rather than in winter which would be a more “difficult time” or delaying until next year.

He said: “If we don’t go ahead now when we we’ve clearly done so much with the vaccination programme to break the link between infection and death.

“If we don’t go ahead now when the summer firebreak is coming up, the school holidays, all the advantages that that should give us in fighting the virus, then the question is, ‘when would we go ahead?’. Particularly given the likelihood the virus will have an extra advantage in the colder months, in the autumn, and in the winter.

“So we run the risk of either opening up at a very difficult time when the virus has an edge, has an advantage in the colder months, or again putting everything off to next year so I do think it’s going to be a very balanced decision next week.”

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/new-supermarket-rules-asda-primark-20977139

Let's think about what he's saying: that he sees the choice as either getting extra people infected now, during the "summer firebreak", or later - and he's saying that he wants to avoid it being worse later, which would only be the case if getting enough people infected now adds significantly to immunity later (he's saying that will mean less people infected in the long run than if we just kept restrictions in place and waited until we've vaccinated pretty much everyone).
Are you still going to mask up? [View all] Soph0571 Jul 2021 OP
Vaccinated and still masking up in public Duncanpup Jul 2021 #1
I'm double vaxed and still masking up when I go into a public building Siwsan Jul 2021 #2
Only takes a few seconds a day to mask up and it's free bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #3
Only a few seconds a day? T_i_B Jul 2021 #11
I'm still masking, distancing and sanitizing even though I'm fully vaxxed. The Delta Variant is abqtommy Jul 2021 #4
Double vaxed and still masked up duforsure Jul 2021 #5
I will continue to mask up. It is still dangerous out there. katmondoo Jul 2021 #6
BoJo Is Crazy WHITT Jul 2021 #7
The opposition would not win a vote of no confidence Soph0571 Jul 2021 #8
Perhaps WHITT Jul 2021 #10
No, that by-election just showed the Tories won't get a landslide next election muriel_volestrangler Jul 2021 #12
Many employees of the media do know better, Ghost Dog Jul 2021 #18
I'll probably mask up in shops, and on public transport if I take it muriel_volestrangler Jul 2021 #9
their philosophy is "oppose experts, own the libs, do whatever feels good right now and damn the fut Soph0571 Jul 2021 #13
Johnson is back to herd immunity through infection, under cover of a "summer firebreak" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2021 #14
Yup. 2naSalit Jul 2021 #15
Yes - at least in enclosed places LeftishBrit Jul 2021 #16
Scotland's going its own way as ever, despite pressure to fall in line with Johnson's edicts. Emrys Jul 2021 #17
It's looking like the government now realise scientific opinion really is against them muriel_volestrangler Jul 2021 #19
Ah yes, personal responsibity T_i_B Jul 2021 #20
God, that's so depressing muriel_volestrangler Jul 2021 #21
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