John Kerry

Blaukraut

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35. Have you paid attention which group this is?

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:33 PM

Nov 2012

We have been the John Kerry Group since DU 2, so excuse me for being loyal to my senator first and foremost. If you had been paying attention since 2004 AND BEYOND, you might have noticed that JK gets very little credit and lots of grief among fellow Democrats. And sorry, at this point, the Obama administration has mishandled this whole thing. Pushing Susan Rice to the point of leaving no doubt that she is the likely nominee for SoS and letting Kerry dangle in the breeze (twice now) is unfair. If they really do have Rice in mind, they could have privately let Kerry know so he could in turn state that wishes to remain in the Senate.

As it is now, there is speculation in and out of Massachusetts, and if Rice is ultimately nominated, Kerry will once again be suspected as viewing his Senate seat as a fallback position, and not something he really cares about. This can hurt him in 2014, IF he chooses to run for his seat again. There is nothing people in MA hate more than being taken for granted, rightly or wrongly.

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"Kerry Is the Right Choice [View all] wisteria Nov 2012 OP

VERY positive... YvonneCa Nov 2012 #1

You are welcome. It was nice to come accross this.n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #4

And it might positively pave the way for that idiot Brown Warpy Nov 2012 #2

I really don't see Brown regaining his seat. wisteria Nov 2012 #3

Maybe not at this moment, but in about four months BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #7

+1. It's a very real fear, and most of us never thought he'd take Teddy's seat.... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #53

I was pretty surprised myself. I really didn't think they'd fall for a Republican to take BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #129

If this does happen, I hope the scenario you've laid out works to our benefit. I just remember... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #131

Today, after Collin's turn to take Susan Rice's words out of context before the cameras, BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #132

I'm right there with you. They think they deserve a do-over & taking Kerry's seat would accomplish Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #133

Exactly. AND they can support their beloved McCain as he tries to get Ambassador Rice back BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #134

Have you heard of Youtubes? karynnj Nov 2012 #73

didn't he just lose haydukelives Nov 2012 #5

Warren was a powerhouse candidate Warpy Nov 2012 #10

He has expended himself. He won't even be able to raise the money he has in the past. wisteria Nov 2012 #13

if it means winning a Senate seat..... chillfactor Nov 2012 #56

Welcome to DU, chillfactor! calimary Nov 2012 #127

Would Rachel possibly reconsider a run? ashling Nov 2012 #118

Rachel Maddow? Warpy Nov 2012 #130

Warren will be an excellent Senator and had a fantastic background, but this was the first time karynnj Nov 2012 #125

Yes! You are right. n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #14

It would not. We just won two election cycles where people were saying Mass Nov 2012 #9

+1 n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #12

Kerry has always been my first choice. defacto7 Nov 2012 #6

I agree Kerry has a great background for the job.... chillfactor Nov 2012 #59

and the President has not made his choice yet karynnj Nov 2012 #76

no..the president has not chillfactor Nov 2012 #82

Of course I will - but I will discuss things with my friends here in OUR group karynnj Nov 2012 #126

Surprisingly, Chris Matthews had a segment saying the same thing. Mass Nov 2012 #8

I agree with you. It made no sense to go after Rice. wisteria Nov 2012 #11

They need a scandal. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #27

My best bet at this point is that it will be Rice. Mass Nov 2012 #15

Even more why would the acting head of CIA accompany her karynnj Nov 2012 #16

May be, but I am skeptical about the last part. Mass Nov 2012 #17

Not just the media, there were many Senators who praised Kerry karynnj Nov 2012 #18

Your last comment, wisteria Nov 2012 #43

Yes, but Rice is competent and her philosophy is not that different from Kerry. Mass Nov 2012 #46

Yes, why keep him in the mix when it is obvious what they plan on doing. wisteria Nov 2012 #24

I know I am terrible for saying this, but she apparently did not charm them today. wisteria Nov 2012 #21

maybe satxdem Nov 2012 #29

I certainly can not read her mind, and she may want to leave a very positive impact, but.... wisteria Nov 2012 #37

play that card if you want satxdem Nov 2012 #50

Better question - Why did you come to this group? karynnj Nov 2012 #63

why don't you stop responding to my post. satxdem Nov 2012 #65

I assure you that I am neither a "nutjob" or a Republican karynnj Nov 2012 #81

what exactly did i say when i first got here that was an insult to all? satxdem Nov 2012 #88

You know that we support Senator Kerry, wisteria Nov 2012 #108

yea. where was the insult? satxdem Nov 2012 #115

We do not call people insulting names here. wisteria Nov 2012 #84

you all are crazy. another name. satxdem Nov 2012 #93

Iam not biting. Sorry. wisteria Nov 2012 #110

and for all I know Kerry promised you one. satxdem Nov 2012 #112

Why are you here? wisteria Nov 2012 #113

oh good gawd.....wha is wrong with you? chillfactor Nov 2012 #66

Do you realize what the forum you are in is? karynnj Nov 2012 #79

Well, I have to be honest and say I don't support her. wisteria Nov 2012 #91

I believe Senator Kerry is a great man..... chillfactor Nov 2012 #109

This is the Kerry forum, I don't understand why you would even wisteria Nov 2012 #89

If you support Rice, go and start your own forum. wisteria Nov 2012 #111

your reply to the poster was unwarranted...... chillfactor Nov 2012 #62

This is the JK group - a place where it is reasonable that people are likely to support JK karynnj Nov 2012 #64

other folks here also support Susan Rice...... chillfactor Nov 2012 #75

Holy Crap! What part about John Kerry Group do you not understand? Blaukraut Nov 2012 #78

why are you coming after me? chillfactor Nov 2012 #85

If you actually read my posts, you'd see that I have no problem with Susan Rice as SoS Blaukraut Nov 2012 #90

simple yes..but I was NOT attacking anyone..let alone Kerry chillfactor Nov 2012 #114

or we can stay on this one? satxdem Nov 2012 #87

The point, once again, was this: Blaukraut Nov 2012 #98

the point is you don't know me. satxdem Nov 2012 #104

On DU, that is the norm, but you misunderstand what I wrote karynnj Nov 2012 #83

Some here will support the President's choice. wisteria Nov 2012 #117

No, you are the one who has not bothered to take the time to learn the organizational karynnj Nov 2012 #119

Exactly. n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #96

Thank you. satxdem Nov 2012 #68

Why did you search out anything in this group? karynnj Nov 2012 #71

no. satxdem Nov 2012 #77

she was not "attacking" anyone..... chillfactor Nov 2012 #80

Oh the irony. Can YOU accept it, too? Blaukraut Nov 2012 #86

dont put words in my mouth. satxdem Nov 2012 #95

You suggested this not her. wisteria Nov 2012 #99

You have had your say, support whom you want. wisteria Nov 2012 #94

what is your point? satxdem Nov 2012 #100

Whatever. wisteria Nov 2012 #116

I agree.. chillfactor Nov 2012 #58

Good for you. That doesn't mean I support his choice, wisteria Nov 2012 #101

And, the more you post here, wisteria Nov 2012 #106

Judging by the latest reports (no links, just MSNBC, etc) Blaukraut Nov 2012 #19

I mostly agree Mass Nov 2012 #20

So he is only a vote? wisteria Nov 2012 #23

That's my problem too karynnj Nov 2012 #25

I do see a fight if Kerry were nominated for SOD, wisteria Nov 2012 #40

This is unfair concerning Rice. Mass Nov 2012 #42

I'm not sure why you feel the need to trash Rice in your effort to promote Kerry. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #70

Ms. Rice is not as qualified as the Senator. wisteria Nov 2012 #120

"To bad I have no vote," Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #128

Whatever, I doubt the entire party is on board with just one candidate. n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #135

You have taken the words right out of my mouth. wisteria Nov 2012 #22

why is it so personal? satxdem Nov 2012 #32

I agree that either one is qualified - but this is the JK group karynnj Nov 2012 #33

Thank you, Karyn. Blaukraut Nov 2012 #34

Bravo, if you could see me, I am giving you a standing ovation!!!!! n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #45

thanks karynnj Nov 2012 #52

What you said. Mass Nov 2012 #47

see this is what I mean. satxdem Nov 2012 #51

You can't praise Kerry because McCain is? That is completely batshit crazy karynnj Nov 2012 #57

Twisting things. satxdem Nov 2012 #61

As you are new, you do not understand the concept of the groups here karynnj Nov 2012 #92

it makes you wonder does it not? chillfactor Nov 2012 #102

that's exactly why. satxdem Nov 2012 #107

Really, go read some of the right wing posts about his wisteria Nov 2012 #121

Have you paid attention which group this is? Blaukraut Nov 2012 #35

yes i have paid attention. satxdem Nov 2012 #55

It is personal because, the President has used the Senator in the past, wisteria Nov 2012 #41

This is unfair. Mass Nov 2012 #44

You don't think Clinton was a poltical choice? wisteria Nov 2012 #48

At this time it is really not a prudent idea to risk his seat. We need him in the Senate now. It still_one Nov 2012 #26

Ditto! I don't want Obama freeing up Kerry's seat for Scott Brown MotherPetrie Nov 2012 #30

or someone else. I want Kerry's experience in the Senate. I believe he will protect our interests still_one Nov 2012 #31

Who is to say he will even run again? Blaukraut Nov 2012 #36

I don't agree with your assessment. wisteria Nov 2012 #123

K&R for Senator Kerry. patrice Nov 2012 #28

NYT Friedman flippant opinion... YvonneCa Nov 2012 #38

Thanks. I was going to post this. I did not read the column to see his reasoning, but I got a good Mass Nov 2012 #39

You are welcome. Comic relief is often... YvonneCa Nov 2012 #74

What did Duncan do, buy him dinner or something? wisteria Nov 2012 #49

it is not our job to make or to recommend........ chillfactor Nov 2012 #54

The President has named no one yet .... but YOU came to the Kerry group karynnj Nov 2012 #67

True, but I am entitled to my opinion, wisteria Nov 2012 #103

I find it curious that a number of posters feel the need to come in here to tell us how to feel Blaukraut Nov 2012 #60

+100000000 karynnj Nov 2012 #69

The ultimate irony is that I don't even want JK to be SoS and believe Susan Rice will do a fine job Blaukraut Nov 2012 #72

Me too n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #124

Dont feel the trolls. Mass Nov 2012 #97

Good advice as always! I should have ignored them a long time ago! karynnj Nov 2012 #122

This is how I feel too. wisteria Nov 2012 #105