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karynnj

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13. My suspicion now on this is that it is political -- and JK is really just collateral damage
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 10:05 PM
Aug 2013

What is really clear as Mass said is that HRC's tenure as SOS is primarily being spun as her being a passionate advocate for women, children and human rights. Her speeches were good. Here - the Olympics are years away. The law was just passed.

Yet, you have him bemoaning the fact that Kerry has yet to DO something. (Note the difference in the tests used. Hilary's speeches did not - at least for the most part - lead to change in any country that I can think of -- yet he praises her based solely on his words. What would Hillary say at this point - after the law passed, but before there has been any official statement on how this impacts the Olympics? Her speeches were not against any country that we need to deal with. So, the comparison is not very sensible. It also begs the question, would any diplomat, shoot his mouth off on a sensitive issue. My guess is the best way to make the Russians INFLEXIBLE on this is publicly come out screaming at them. (Consider this is a cultural issue - and not so long ago ( 50 or so years) there were states where homosexual acts were illegal - as they were in England - even if you were as famous as Oscar Wilde.)

I think we will see many of these comparisons - on many things. I saw one that blasted Kerry for what they called his Egypt "gaffe" while saying that HRC was flawless in making statements. The Obama policy that we can not call it a coup is the root of why NO ONE has been able to speak clearly on this. (As to HRC being flawless - I suggest looking at her comments on Palestine when Mitchell was working to get the talks going.)

These comparisons will get very disturbing and I would assume that they will continue. The other side is that I have seen some VERY pro Kerry comparisons --- on the Fox site, the Chicago Tribune etc. Not to mention, look at what I think is the completely misinterpreted McCain comment -- that HRC was a "rock star" SOS, who did not work on the issues that JK is now working on. I think this is a devious comment - especially in seeming not to be negative. These are even MORE disturbing. The more praise JK gets as SOS, expect people "on our side" to push unflattering (to JK) comparisons to increase.

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