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westerebus

(2,977 posts)
24. Several things.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 10:24 PM
Dec 2013

The term "rape culture" does not adequately describe a large part of a horrific problem glossed over in the statistics. 60% of reported rapes happen before the person is 18 years old with the almost half the victims reporting knowing the offender.

What that says to me is we have an "incest culture" on equal footing with the rape of women. This problem involving children with the predominance of female children being the victims isn't being discussed by either side.

First, not all sexual assaults are father or step-father on daughter, but male sibling on female sibling. It expands from there to include other family relations and others known to the family of the victim in a majority of the cases.

For what I have to say, I will keep to the male-female interaction with the male as the instigator or aggressor. One third of these assaults occur before the child is eleven years old.

Given the trauma a young child would endure, is it possible that at a later point in life this victim would chose not to report a rape as an adult?

Which brings me to the other popular statement: "all men are potential rapists". The reality is all humans are potential rapists. As boys are males and as girls are females, what might be correct to say is "Males are more prone to rape than females" and the distinction that only adult men rape is put into a less inflammatory perspective.

Finally, I don't want to leave out male children who are victims of sexual assault. They too knew their assailant. Often, an authority figure known to the family and more often a representative of a religious organization.

There is a lot of work to be done as far as I can tell. Thanks for giving me this opportunity to speak my mind.

Man A disagreeing with Woman B's opinion is not misogyny ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #1
Not a bad idea Major Nikon Dec 2013 #5
Of course, also part of the equation.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #6
any time you disagree with one, that's what you are leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #2
Please be specific ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #4
The observation that a woman is overweight lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #3
What I find strange about Jennifer Lawrence is.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #7
How did you get the link that way? Upton Dec 2013 #10
Highlight the text you want to be a hyperlink lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #11
Like this? Upton Dec 2013 #12
But focusing excessively women's appearance, and not men's, *is* rooted in misogyny nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #14
No. Misogyny is hatred of women. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #17
Not making a huge distinction Bonobo Dec 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Upton Dec 2013 #8
Pointing out the biological differences between men and women.. Upton Dec 2013 #9
But exaggerating them for one's own purposes could be. Just saying... nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #15
I think you are right libodem Dec 2013 #13
I don't find your argument unreasonable. It just seems unnecessary in some ways, to me at least. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #16
I don't hate women although I've been accused of that. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #19
And you *are* a woman. That's the ridiculous part. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #20
Exactly my point. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #21
Which still is, and always was, a worthy ideal. Denigrating men as a gender because they have nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #22
If ... In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #23
Several things. westerebus Dec 2013 #24
I don't disagree with a single thing you said. nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #25
Thanks. nt westerebus Dec 2013 #26
Human culture seems so steeped in violence and dysfunction, all around. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #27
Could be we need a shift in focus. westerebus Dec 2013 #29
CPS cases of sexual abuse of children is on the decline. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #28
Thanks for the link. westerebus Dec 2013 #30
Seems to follow the general decline in violent crime. So it makes sense, yeah. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #31
"Tone arguments" also are not misogyny Bonobo Dec 2013 #32
Defamation pretty much fits the definition of assholery Major Nikon Dec 2013 #33
Not to get on your case or anything, but I don't see a great deal wrong with the OP there. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #34
Women vote in greater numbers than men Major Nikon Dec 2013 #35
True. And yet none of us are immune to cultural biases which affect, among many other things, our nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #36
So... the 53% voting bloc don't have electoral clout because some of them vote wrong? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #37
I never said they didn't have clout. Women voters have been crucial to the Dem Party nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #38
The difference between men and women's attitudes on abortion are in the single digits Major Nikon Dec 2013 #41
I didn't say or imply it was split along gender lines. I'm not monolithically blaming "men" *at all* nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #42
True Major Nikon Dec 2013 #43
The ERA should probably be resurrected, though who knows if it would pass nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #45
I don't have issues with women working politically to correct problems which affect women Major Nikon Dec 2013 #46
I agree. But I don't think something like the VAWA violates the spirit of equality. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #48
Laws *could* be written to address prison sexual abuse or provide contraceptive coverage... lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #49
Absolutely. Might require a bit of creativity, but I don't see why it couldn't be done. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #50
Why do you think it wouldn't pass? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #47
And those cultural biases disparately affect both men and women in different ways Major Nikon Dec 2013 #39
I gave it a shot anyway. See post #38. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #40
I don't think you're blaming (Males) the menz. westerebus Dec 2013 #44
I hope you don't mind, but I would like to reply to this: Dash87 Dec 2013 #51
Fantastic post. I might have a minor issue with a couple points, but basically you've got it covered nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #52
All are fair points Major Nikon Dec 2013 #53
This seems like a timely thread. Bonobo Jan 2014 #54
Would that everyone agree with that... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #55
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