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Veilex

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Wed Jan 21, 2015, 02:44 PM Jan 2015

The Friendzone [View all]

In popular culture, friend zone refers to a platonic relationship wherein one person, most commonly a man, wishes to enter into a romantic or sexual relationship, while the other does not.[1][2][3] It is generally considered to be an undesirable or dreaded[4] situation by the lovelorn person.[5] If a desired party does not return or respond affirmatively to the advances or affection of the desiring party, but continues to participate in the friendship in a platonic way, it is sometimes described as friend-zoning.[6] In a related sense of the term, friend zone can describe a "commitment mismatch", such as when two people are sexually involved, but in which one person wants a committed relationship such as being a boyfriend or girlfriend, while the other does not.[7] According to psychologists, the man in a cross-gender friendship is more likely to be attracted to his woman friend than she is to him, and he is more likely to overestimate her interest in a romantic or sexual relationship. The concept has been criticized by feminists as being unfair and misogynistic in imposing an obligation on women to offer sex in return for kind actions by men.[10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend_zone

Are feminists right? Does the "friendzone" impose a quid-pro-quo obligation on women? Are women being expected to trade sex for the kindness of men? Could it be that this is yet another objectification of women, the world over?

Or is the concept "Friendzone" just a reactionary understanding that affections will not be returned on the same level the originator feels (In effect, a rejection)? If the concept "friendzone" is indeed wrong, does that make it unfair to try to get close to someone you're romantically interested in? Does this mean even asking someone on a date is unfair? Is it perhaps unfair to obligate someone to remain friends with the person who does not deem them worthy of affection? Or should the rejected just suck it up and try to continue on with the friendship in spite of being rejected? Is there even a right answer?

Or is there perhaps something else afoot here?

No one likes rejection... and regardless of if "friendzone" is right or wrong, the issue of rejection seems to be glossed over.
In the case of friendzoning, the person desiring a romantic relationship has been rejected... and the target of affection may lose a friend... which is another form of rejection.

Perhaps what we're dealing with is not the "friendzone" at all, but rejection. If this is indeed the case, I think perhaps the presumption of the quid-pro-quo in "friendzone" may be bordering on being a false stereotype. One that is often perpetuated by feminists as "typical of men"... though conspicuously, the term is never brought up when dealing with women... as though women are incapable of being promiscuous. In fact, there is an unspoken undercurrent that seeks out to paint being sexually active, or desiring to be sexually active as being a bad thing... in spite of the fact that part of our core nature is to be sexual creatures.

Anyway, enough of my rambling. What are your thoughts?
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The Friendzone [View all] Veilex Jan 2015 OP
If a person, male or female, has romantic feelings or desires Seeking Serenity Jan 2015 #1
"he should not be chastised or berated if he doesn't want to just be Sally's friend" Veilex Jan 2015 #2
I agree. Seeking Serenity Jan 2015 #3
This very same dynamic happens when the gender roles are reversed Major Nikon Jan 2015 #6
The hypocrisy in some quarters is astounding, like the people who picked over dating websites for Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #12
I think the answer really depends on how the person who has the unrequited feelings reacts mythology Jan 2015 #4
"They aren't rejecting you as a person, they are saying that they don't want to date you." Veilex Jan 2015 #5
It also depends on how the other person reacts Major Nikon Jan 2015 #7
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #10
The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2015 #20
This is something that has recently resurfaced in my life. kjones Jan 2015 #8
Anyway, guess my point is kjones Jan 2015 #9
It's not a zone, it's simply not being interested in a romantic relationship. Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #11
Imo, it's whiny and entitled. chrisa Jan 2015 #13
"Why waste time on someone who will not want to have a relationship with you" - Indeed. Veilex Jan 2015 #15
I think in terms of social networks, bigger is better. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2015 #19
I agree. Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #16
BITTER, LONELY WOMEN Bonobo Jan 2015 #17
Dupe chrisa Jan 2015 #13
A guy on the losing end of "commitment mismatch" is a stalker lumberjack_jeff Jan 2015 #18
That's why the only way to win is to be like Captain Kirk. Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #21
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