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In reply to the discussion: Why Gail Dines Is About As Leftist As The Tea Party [View all]proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)3. Authoritarian left or right? Rhetorical question only.
http://gaildines.com/category/blog/
Should We Worry Whether Porn Has Hijacked Our Sexuality?
By Sonali Kolhatkar, Uprising Radio
Posted on September 11, 2010, Printed on September 11, 2010
http://www.alternet.org/story/148142/
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Sonali Kolhatkar: I have to say it was very difficult to read your book, and I had to skip parts where you describe mainstream pornography. This is not your fathers Playboy or Penthouse magazines and videos. What were seeing in porn today, and mainstream porn, is completely bizarre. I mean, how do you handle it in your research?
Gail Dines: Well, whats interesting is that I, like the viewers, get desensitized over time. I mean, obviously I couldnt have the visceral reaction I had in the beginning to it. But I put those descriptions in because often people say to me, you know, why are you getting so upset by images of naked women? And what I want people to understand is that pornography now looks nothing like it did 10, 15 years ago that it is now brutal and cruel and is absolutely based on the degradation of women. So this is why I walk people through the porn industry. Also, often anti-porn feminists are accused of picking the worst of the pornography. What I wanted to do was go into the mainstream pornography that the average 11-year-old would get once he put porn into Google.
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SK: Because of the Internet.
GD: Absolutely. The Internet changed the industry. It made it accessible, and it made it affordable. So remember, when the average age of first viewing pornography is 11, when the 11-year-old boy puts porn into Google, hes not looking at your fathers Playboy, hes looking at a world of cruelty, and a world of brutality. So what I ask in the book is, What are the long-term effects of bringing up boys on violent images when you think about pornography as being the main form of sex education in our society?
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Even the industry said that many women have a hard time being in the industry for more than three months. Why? Because of the brutalization of the body.
SK: Three months?
GD: Thats what the article says in Adult Video News. Also, Ive interviewed somebody who worked with AIM, the health care organization that takes care of the health of porn performers, and he was telling me just what happens to the bodies of these women...
Should We Worry Whether Porn Has Hijacked Our Sexuality?
By Sonali Kolhatkar, Uprising Radio
Posted on September 11, 2010, Printed on September 11, 2010
http://www.alternet.org/story/148142/
<...>
Sonali Kolhatkar: I have to say it was very difficult to read your book, and I had to skip parts where you describe mainstream pornography. This is not your fathers Playboy or Penthouse magazines and videos. What were seeing in porn today, and mainstream porn, is completely bizarre. I mean, how do you handle it in your research?
Gail Dines: Well, whats interesting is that I, like the viewers, get desensitized over time. I mean, obviously I couldnt have the visceral reaction I had in the beginning to it. But I put those descriptions in because often people say to me, you know, why are you getting so upset by images of naked women? And what I want people to understand is that pornography now looks nothing like it did 10, 15 years ago that it is now brutal and cruel and is absolutely based on the degradation of women. So this is why I walk people through the porn industry. Also, often anti-porn feminists are accused of picking the worst of the pornography. What I wanted to do was go into the mainstream pornography that the average 11-year-old would get once he put porn into Google.
<...>
SK: Because of the Internet.
GD: Absolutely. The Internet changed the industry. It made it accessible, and it made it affordable. So remember, when the average age of first viewing pornography is 11, when the 11-year-old boy puts porn into Google, hes not looking at your fathers Playboy, hes looking at a world of cruelty, and a world of brutality. So what I ask in the book is, What are the long-term effects of bringing up boys on violent images when you think about pornography as being the main form of sex education in our society?
<...>
Even the industry said that many women have a hard time being in the industry for more than three months. Why? Because of the brutalization of the body.
SK: Three months?
GD: Thats what the article says in Adult Video News. Also, Ive interviewed somebody who worked with AIM, the health care organization that takes care of the health of porn performers, and he was telling me just what happens to the bodies of these women...
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One, if I had a walnut for every subjective OPINION that Dines tries to pass off as universal
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#6
When challenged on her sources, Gail Dines has been repeately shown to either misrepresent
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#13
AVN isn't readily searchable via google, as I discovered after briefly attempting to provide a link.
proverbialwisdom
Aug 2012
#14
Extreme porn is illegal in the UK. Dines describes and questions the parameters of legal in the US.
proverbialwisdom
Aug 2012
#16
You're avoiding answering my questions. And this thread is ABOUT Dines.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#17
Nice try. My guess is that anyone actually informed doesn't equate porn and extreme porn.
proverbialwisdom
Aug 2012
#18
Your guess? Your guess would be wrong, because that sort of conflation is exactly the basis
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#21
RE: You're avoiding answering my questions. And this thread is ABOUT Dines.
proverbialwisdom
Aug 2012
#19
If Dines is discredited, AND her methodology is Discredited, and her source material is discredited
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#20
RE: AVN article. Her presentation below contains a slide with the source material plus discussion.
proverbialwisdom
Oct 2012
#31
Gail Dines is a transphobic bigot. Bigots are not welcome in this group and transphobia is not
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#32
Gail Dines was just a keynote speaker at an event headed by transphobic bigots
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#7
More on the allegations of transphobic bigotry at the conference Dines endorsed w/ a keynote speech:
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#11
This is not an open forum for right wingers and their enablers to broadcast propaganda.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#24
I am not going to allow this group to be a forum for bigots of any stripe.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#27
No, I'm talking about posting an hour long video of Gail Dines opining on whatever.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#29
Professor Gail Dines and Professor Sheila Jeffreys are being misrepresented on this thread.
proverbialwisdom
Oct 2012
#33
You have been informed that the mens group is not a place for the promotion of transgender bigotry.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#34
Another DU Feminists Group (Catherina) Thread on Jeffreys' trans bigotry:
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#36
"The act which men commonly perform on prostituted women is penis-in-vagina sexual intercourse.
LadyHawkAZ
Oct 2012
#38
Apparently, from what I've heard, this is a awful horrible pit of pure horrible awfulness.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#40
I'm not a fan of Gail Dines, but I'm sure there have been more convincing/logical critiques of her
fishwax
Oct 2012
#44
"She's wrapping her authoritarian-based complaint in a veneer of progressivism."
4th law of robotics
Oct 2012
#52
Are you suggesting that, say, "Morality in Media".... has some sort of right-wing, religious agenda?
Warren DeMontague
May 2014
#66