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Warren DeMontague

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15. It was NOT for "purposes of debate", clearly. Nice try.

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 03:36 PM

Aug 2012

The article "may exist or may not"? Okay, so maybe shes full of shit, maybe shes not? Funny, that SHE couldn't be bothered to provide the source quotes or material, despite repeatedly paraphrasing it.

Yet you're clearly going to try to continue to hold her up as a reputable source... Why?

Here are some FACTS: the radfem 2012 conference was kicked out of Conway hall for its bigoted stance against transpeople, a stance about which the venue management had this to say:

we are not satisfied it conforms with the Equality Act (2010), or reflects our ethos regarding issues of discrimination.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1139&pid=6468

This was all very well documented in the media and progressive blogosphere, as well as LOUDLY complained about by the event organizers themselves, in the process of defending their bigoted stance and weaving elaborate conspiracy theories (again) about men getting sex change operations for the sole purpose of "invading womynspace".

There is NO WAY Gail Dines could have had anything to do with this event and not been aware of the bigotry and discrimination. Yet, she spoke anyway.

"for the purposes of debate"? Hah. It was for the purposes of promulgating her falsehood-laden gibberish about porn, of course.

http://radicalhub.com/2012/07/22/london-radical-feminist-conference-july-2012/

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Why Gail Dines Is About As Leftist As The Tea Party [View all] Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 OP

Some of the people who push her ideas here.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2012 #1

I agree. Its a song that only contains one note Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #4

I would say she is solidly in the authoritarian right 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #2

Authoritarian left or right? Rhetorical question only. proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #3

One, if I had a walnut for every subjective OPINION that Dines tries to pass off as universal Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #6

When challenged on her sources, Gail Dines has been repeately shown to either misrepresent Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #13

AVN isn't readily searchable via google, as I discovered after briefly attempting to provide a link. proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #14

It was NOT for "purposes of debate", clearly. Nice try. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #15

Extreme porn is illegal in the UK. Dines describes and questions the parameters of legal in the US. proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #16

You're avoiding answering my questions. And this thread is ABOUT Dines. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #17

Nice try. My guess is that anyone actually informed doesn't equate porn and extreme porn. proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #18

Your guess? Your guess would be wrong, because that sort of conflation is exactly the basis Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #21

RE: You're avoiding answering my questions. And this thread is ABOUT Dines. proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #19

If Dines is discredited, AND her methodology is Discredited, and her source material is discredited Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #20

UK citizens don't enjoy a institutionalized right to free speech. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #23

RE: AVN article. Her presentation below contains a slide with the source material plus discussion. proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #31

Gail Dines is a transphobic bigot. Bigots are not welcome in this group and transphobia is not Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #32

I found you your information, Warren! LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #47

Knock me over with a feather!! opiate69 Oct 2012 #48

It's been a nice visit... LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #49

More Gail Dines material: Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #5

Gail Dines was just a keynote speaker at an event headed by transphobic bigots Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #7

That should seal it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #8

It's been pointed out already 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #9

I admit, I held back in my post.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #10

More on the allegations of transphobic bigotry at the conference Dines endorsed w/ a keynote speech: Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #11

Scented Nectar: Gail Dines Further Exposed Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #12

Gail Dines lecture on "Neoliberalism and the Defanging of Feminism." proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #22

This is not an open forum for right wingers and their enablers to broadcast propaganda. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #24

I wouldn't bother watching.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #25

And yet she's a hero in some other groups 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #26

I am not going to allow this group to be a forum for bigots of any stripe. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #27

My post? 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #28

No, I'm talking about posting an hour long video of Gail Dines opining on whatever. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #29

A fine sentiment but 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #30

Professor Gail Dines and Professor Sheila Jeffreys are being misrepresented on this thread. proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #33

You have been informed that the mens group is not a place for the promotion of transgender bigotry. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #34

DU Feminists Group Thread on RADFEM2012 Trans Bigotry: Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #35

Female orgasms serve the patriarchy! 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #37

Another DU Feminists Group (Catherina) Thread on Jeffreys' trans bigotry: Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #36

"The act which men commonly perform on prostituted women is penis-in-vagina sexual intercourse. LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #38

Don't run off on our account, LadyHawk! Your input is welcome here! opiate69 Oct 2012 #39

Apparently, from what I've heard, this is a awful horrible pit of pure horrible awfulness. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #40

Rumor has it that there's cooties LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #43

I wonder how our species - homo sapiens - would have propagated hifiguy Oct 2012 #55

I think Jeffreys has trouble thinking outside her own box, LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #56

To expound on your question about becoming experts in human behavior... opiate69 Oct 2012 #57

Exactly. LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #58

Not misrepresented--hoist on their own petards, but not misrepresented. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #41

These folks are often "unfairly misrepresented" and slandered 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #42

I'm not a fan of Gail Dines, but I'm sure there have been more convincing/logical critiques of her fishwax Oct 2012 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #45

I don't disagree with most of that fishwax Oct 2012 #46

I agree that some of the argument presented suffers from logical fallacies Major Nikon Oct 2012 #50

Don't agree with this lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #51

"She's wrapping her authoritarian-based complaint in a veneer of progressivism." 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #52

It isn't clear to me what you're disagreeing with ... fishwax Oct 2012 #53

My post was unskillful. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #54

Kick for relevance. opiate69 May 2014 #59

Some people are reallyquiet about their transphobic garbage Major Nikon May 2014 #60

Truth. opiate69 May 2014 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #62

Also from the article in the OP: Warren DeMontague May 2014 #63

Nope.... maddezmom May 2014 #64

Dines sighting! ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #65

Are you suggesting that, say, "Morality in Media".... has some sort of right-wing, religious agenda? Warren DeMontague May 2014 #66

You're just pissed about their religion, Warren! ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #67

Yeah, that's one way to spin it, isn't it? Warren DeMontague May 2014 #68

Well, they finally got called on it in their own den.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #69

Shout out to MIM!!!! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2014 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #71